The "Unnatural" Preferences of Intelligent People

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The "Unnatural" Preferences of Intelligent People

#1  Postby MedGen » Feb 26, 2010 9:53 pm

Just caught this little snippet on one of my news sites:
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A new study may finally put to bed the age-old question: Are liberals smarter than conservatives? Well, it would appear so. The study, which will appear in the March 2010 issue Social Psychology Quarterly, advances a new theory suggests that more intelligent people are more likely than less intelligent people to adopt preferences and values that are considered "evolutionarily novel." The researchers say that our intelligent ancestors were able to find new and novel ways to work out problems for which there were no innate solutions. The theory argues that humans are designed by evolution to be conservative, and care mostly about their own families and friends, and that being liberal means caring about an indefinite number of genetically unrelated strangers they never meet or interact with, which is evolutionarily novel. So more intelligent children may be more likely to grow up to be liberals. However, one finding of the study is that more intelligent people are no more or no less likely to value such evolutionarily familiar entities as marriage, family, children, and friends.


I know its brief, but I thought perhaps a few of our resident psych knowledeables might be able to shed some light on this research. My initial reaction is "yeah, but...". I can only assume this is a matter of higher proportions of academics (depends on how they are classing people as intelligent too) are liberals or something.

Has anyone else seen any other research related to this? If so was it robust or are there glaring holes in their methodology and study design? Is it a gross mis- or over-interpretation perhaps?
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Re: The "Unnatural" Preferences of Intelligent People

#2  Postby magetoo » Feb 26, 2010 10:11 pm

"evolutionarily novel"? And I thought that this would mean my porn collection could confirm what I have always suspected...

I have nothing useful to say, but it seems that razib has blogged about it:
Liberals & atheists are smarter than conservatives & very religious, but why?
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#3  Postby misanthropic_clown » Feb 26, 2010 10:25 pm

I find it difficult to imagine what data they could have gathered that would allow them to have any meaningful insight into the tendency of our intelligent ancestors to adopt liberal values at the cost of conservative family values. I find the concept of 'evolutionarily novel' to be particularly vague, much less how to tie that to liberalism in a meaningful way.

My guess is that they have found an intelligence/liberalism correlation in modern test subjects and extrapolated blindly backwards in time.
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Re: The "Unnatural" Preferences of Intelligent People

#4  Postby theidiot » Feb 26, 2010 10:49 pm

MedGen wrote:
Has anyone else seen any other research related to this? If so was it robust or are there glaring holes in their methodology and study design? Is it a gross mis- or over-interpretation perhaps?


Here's PZ Myers take on it:

"Good grief. This ridiculous study is making the rounds of the atheist community, with its claim that liberals and atheists are smarter than conservatives and religious people. Look at the numbers!

Young adults who identify themselves as "not at all religious" have an average IQ of 103 during adolescence, while those who identify themselves as "very religious" have an average IQ of 97 during adolescence.


Seriously? Show me the error bars on those measurements. Show me the reliability of IQ as a measure of actual, you know, intelligence. Show me that a 6 point IQ difference matters at all in your interactions with other people, even if it were real. And then to claim that these differences are not only heritable, but evolutionarily significant…jebus, people, you can just glance at it and see that it is complete crap.

And then look at the source: Satoshi Kanazawa, the Fenimore Cooper of Sociobiology, the professional fantasist of Psychology Today. He's like the poster boy for the stupidity and groundlessnessof freakishly fact-free evolutionary psychology. Just ignore anything with Kanazawa's name on it"

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Re: The "Unnatural" Preferences of Intelligent People

#5  Postby sanja » Feb 27, 2010 11:11 am

MedGen wrote:However, one finding of the study is that more intelligent people are no more or no less likely to value such evolutionarily familiar entities as marriage, family, children, and friends.


what does this sentence mean?
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Re: The "Unnatural" Preferences of Intelligent People

#6  Postby MedGen » Feb 27, 2010 3:17 pm

sanja wrote:
article cited wrote:However, one finding of the study is that more intelligent people are no more or no less likely to value such evolutionarily familiar entities as marriage, family, children, and friends.


what does this sentence mean?


I think its a subtle dig at traditionalism that is so often associated with conservatism, the ideal of family values and marriage, etc influenced by religious belief systems.

I see that the study is a load of tosh now, thanks for the education guys!
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Re: The "Unnatural" Preferences of Intelligent People

#7  Postby Chad Zichterman » Feb 27, 2010 8:41 pm

Any study which purports to be scientifically grounded -- while relying upon the concept of IQ -- isn't.
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#8  Postby alienpresence » Feb 27, 2010 8:53 pm

Couldn't resist it. Since this is tending to a flawed study..... 8-)

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