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wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
On another note -- I've never heard a good (logical) argument which proposes that morality/ethics are not contingent upon consequences. Personally, I think they're entirely dependent upon consequences, even if we're talking about intent. But I would love it if anyone could present a sound opposition.
Tyrannical wrote:On another note -- I've never heard a good (logical) argument which proposes that morality/ethics are not contingent upon consequences. Personally, I think they're entirely dependent upon consequences, even if we're talking about intent. But I would love it if anyone could present a sound opposition.
I've heard both that "the ends justifies the means" and also "the ends do not justify the means" Is that what you are getting at?
GreyICE wrote:Tyrannical wrote:On another note -- I've never heard a good (logical) argument which proposes that morality/ethics are not contingent upon consequences. Personally, I think they're entirely dependent upon consequences, even if we're talking about intent. But I would love it if anyone could present a sound opposition.
I've heard both that "the ends justifies the means" and also "the ends do not justify the means" Is that what you are getting at?
Well that's a tad binary.
It's more "the ends cannot be ignored while explaining the means."
wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
shh wrote:Another strawman? Even that article doesn't claim that "consequentialism= the ends justify the means".
GreyICE wrote:shh wrote:Another strawman? Even that article doesn't claim that "consequentialism= the ends justify the means".
Is this some experiment in writing posts using a computer? Honestly, if so, SmarterChild 2.0 has failed. If not, you might want to step back and consider why your post looks like it's been spit out of a random 'forum post' generator with a mild topical plugin.
By the way, nice ad hominem, but while you were busy with that and your rampant poisoning the well, you committed the conjunctive fallacy which clearly a priori demonstrates that this is just another example of affirming a disjunct.
wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
shh wrote: Lol,I have no idea what you're talking about now, have fun.
GreyICE wrote:shh wrote: Lol,I have no idea what you're talking about now, have fun.
Aww, now you want off the random fallacy spewing garbage game? When you're the one who started there in the first place?
Guess it sucks when posts no longer make any sense because their authors think that by spouting misused jargon and buzzwords they can look really smart
wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
shh wrote:
Yeah, but mine was fairly easy to understand, a strawman is an oversimplification of a view, "the means justify the ends" either as part of a dichotomy with it's opposite, or as a description of consequentialism is a strawman, an oversimplification.
Sorry if you find that hard to understand.
wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
wiki wrote: despite the fact that chocolate is not a fruit[citation needed]
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