babel wrote:I kind of liked it. A lot.
Yes, there are some inconsistencies with the other movies, but actually, I don't care.

They are, as far as I know, deliberate. Since X-Men 3 and the Wolverine movie sucked ass, this movie ignores them in an attempt to sort of rewrite the series' continuum.

Ah, didn't know that was the intention. But what has been seen can't been unseen (unfortunately), so I still had a few 'wait a minute, this doesn't seem right'-moments.
For those who haven't seen the movie and like that genre, I think it's quite enjoyable.

babel wrote:The only thing that was a bit of a let down was the ridiculous anticlimax when shaw was killed. Seriously. After absorbing nuclear power, you get killed by a fricking coin without as much as a small POOF?

I agree that it lacked as much dramatic kick as it should have. It was justified in terms of internal consistancy - Shaw could absorb energy and use it to bounce back attempts, so slowly pushing the coin through his brain allowed him to be killed without him using his 'power' but it could have been handled better - I assume they didn't want too much horror, so kiddies to be allowed to watch.

I doubt they're going to ignore X3 or Wolverine entirely, a la Terminator 3, though I'd be happy if they did.

babel wrote:The only thing that was a bit of a let down was the ridiculous anticlimax when shaw was killed. Seriously. After absorbing nuclear power, you get killed by a fricking coin without as much as a small POOF?

See, that just served to highlight how much power Charles has. No matter how much of a turbonutterbastard your powers make you, if you can't block out Prof X, you might as well be an anaemic toddler.

And there's no such thing as a 'fricking [any metal object]' when Magneto is nearby. Iron filing > you.

they should have taken the liberty to change some things, make Magneto the good guy and Charles the bad guy

only cause the dude that plays Magneto was awesome, also, Professor X shouldnt have lost the use of his legs in this one, they should have Star Trekked it up and changed some shit



edit: the film was awesome btw, but it was too short, 2 measly hours

SPMaximus wrote:... also, Professor X shouldnt have lost the use of his legs in this one, they should have Star Trekked it up and changed some shit

Actually I agree, the potential to create an alternate universe was awesome. Maybe they still can.

Animavore wrote:

HughMcB wrote:

Animavore wrote:At least the guy with the voice wasn't Irish like in the comic. It would've been more cringeworthy. At least for me

Did you not hear Magneto's Irish accent breaking through on the beach. I definitely noticed it when he was shouting.

Eh?

Was the guy who played him Irish?

German & Irish parents, I believe. Quite helpful as quite a lot of the scenes were in German, subtitled to English. Clever beggers those casting peeps.

Ironclad wrote:

Animavore wrote:

HughMcB wrote:
Did you not hear Magneto's Irish accent breaking through on the beach. I definitely noticed it when he was shouting.

Eh?

Was the guy who played him Irish?

German & Irish parents, I believe. Quite helpful as quite a lot of the scenes were in German, subtitled to English. Clever beggers those casting peeps.

Yes his Father is German, worked in a guest house as a chef down in Killarney. So he lived there since he was a young lad. Good thing he lost that foul kerry accent, his is more "generic Irish" accent (which is kind of like mine actually).

I saw the movie today and I enjoyed the movie a lot, to be honest I like all the x-men films and I don't care that the new movie has done a retcon cause in my opinion continuity is a load of shit in any form of media.

Uberuce wrote:Here's a possible foible. I disagreed with Animavore's opinion in a thread about Hanna that it breaks suspension of disbelief to have a 50kg teenage girl beating the bejesus out of 100kg trained male fighters. For some reason that doesn't bother me although I agree that it's utter nonsense.

However, it really bothers me when Magneto makes metal fly. The escape in X-Men 2 when he flies on the saucer of blood-metal and the entire Golden Gate bit in 3, for example. I'd really prefer it if his superhero physics exception* was just that he can use himself as a stupendously powerful fulcrum for his metal-moving forces. I've no objection to the way he could pick up the submarine in that trailer, but it feels wrong to me since there's no way the jet could take the weight.

In my head, Magneto-force should be grabbing the sub and the jet and pulling their veritcal position closer together.

*See commentary/features in Watchmen for the physics professor's segment.

I really liked it. I thought it was the best of all the X-Men movies. The series is rife with continuity errors and this one added to them but I enjoyed it the most of any of the X movies.

I had a few issues when the rules of how things work in the setting weren't consistent. At some points such as the sub, there is clearly a direct link between him and whatever he is using his powers on. He tries to hold the sub and is pulled after it. At other times, he does things and it doesn't work that way. I suppose in a movie like this, it comes down to learning to use the powers more skillfully and realizing that with these powers, things don't work the way he always thought they did. I also wondered how he could get that coin through Shaw's head at the end. I suppose Shaw's power must be consciously activated.

There were other things like Darwin (or as a friend put it, his real name was "Plot Device"), the one black character, being the first killed. At the end, all the female characters jump ship to Magneto leaving only the white males as the good guys and one of the females goes only because he told her she was hot looking in her true form, a decision truly based in personal ethics and strength of character.

But still, I liked that it gets the X-Men into the era that really spawned them in the comics, that they didn't have Wolverine there hogging the whole damn movie and loved the performances of most of the actors.

AWESOME. FIRST CLASS DUDES AND DUDETTES.

Uberuce wrote:Here's a possible foible. I disagreed with Animavore's opinion in a thread about Hanna that it breaks suspension of disbelief to have a 50kg teenage girl beating the bejesus out of 100kg trained male fighters. For some reason that doesn't bother me although I agree that it's utter nonsense.

However, it really bothers me when Magneto makes metal fly. The escape in X-Men 2 when he flies on the saucer of blood-metal and the entire Golden Gate bit in 3, for example. I'd really prefer it if his superhero physics exception* was just that he can use himself as a stupendously powerful fulcrum for his metal-moving forces. I've no objection to the way he could pick up the submarine in that trailer, but it feels wrong to me since there's no way the jet could take the weight.

In my head, Magneto-force should be grabbing the sub and the jet and pulling their veritcal position closer together.

*See commentary/features in Watchmen for the physics professor's segment.

Magneto generates magnetic fields, he could for example 'remotely' physically lift enormous weights, push things away or towards him. But his primary power is the manipulation of Earth's magnetic field, the submarine isn't dragging him or the aircraft down it is more like he is willing the Earth to reject the object.

HughMcB wrote:

SPMaximus wrote:... also, Professor X shouldnt have lost the use of his legs in this one, they should have Star Trekked it up and changed some shit

Actually I agree, the potential to create an alternate universe was awesome. Maybe they still can.

I only just saw this - man, I hope they make a movie based on the Apocalypse alternate universe...

Magneto is hotter than Prof X.

Ironclad wrote:

Animavore wrote:

HughMcB wrote:
Did you not hear Magneto's Irish accent breaking through on the beach. I definitely noticed it when he was shouting.

Eh?

Was the guy who played him Irish?

German & Irish parents, I believe. Quite helpful as quite a lot of the scenes were in German, subtitled to English. Clever beggers those casting peeps.

The German in the movie was fucking pathetic, though. Apart from the swineherd and the tailor, who - I think - were the only actual Germans.