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estrellas wrote:Unofficial slavery in the Gulf is quite common. They use their oil money to import women from Asia - Pakistan, Malaysia, the Philippines. The wives get to force these women to do all the housework at all hours of the day and the husbands use them for sex. The wives probably see this as a win-win because it means less time spent having to look at their husband's excess body hair.
cherries wrote:im3rdworld wrote:hi every 1. my first post. regarding the comment of the woman, i can tell u as an ex muslim and currently still living in an ISLAMIC state,that this woman is a fucking genious. she only said this to win support of her extremley chuvanist male counterparts.muslims would do anything for sex even blow them selves up for it. so her making this statment is nothing more than to please her sex starved male population and win their support. she just guarennted herself a long and fruitful political career
hi yasir,welcome to the forum
good point that but sex starved male population
cherries wrote:what does women not being able to leave the house has to do with men having sex or not?
nowadays there's the internet for porn
and muslims are not all that strict though about the masturbation and girlfriend bit.
bioeng wrote:
Women are essentially not allowed to participate in society and are often the property of their father before they get married...
bioeng wrote:nowadays there's the internet for porn
Forbidden and censored in many Muslim societies (though I guess if you're smart enough to work around it with proxies, it works, but I think that's a bit much to expect from societies where most people make less than a few dollars a day)
bioeng wrote:and muslims are not all that strict though about the masturbation and girlfriend bit.
I'm not sure about the masturbation part, but I beg to disagree about the girlfriend bit. Dating of any sort prior to marriage is very much looked down upon in most parts of the Muslim world, including in south east Asian countries.
while there are certain rules to abide to,dating is what a lot of people do as long as you are not alone with each other it's acceptable to a certain point over there.
bioeng wrote:Well, that partly answers your question about not having sex. People tend to only do that when they're alone with one another. If women generally stay home or at best are allowed to meet with men if they're "not alone", I can see why their populations may be sexually repressed.
bioeng wrote:I'm also a bit skeptical about the claims that there's any significant porn viewership in Islamic countries. It just seems awfully at odds with everything their culture preaches, and even though this is a generalization, Muslims worldwide as a whole do tend to be a lot more pious and less rebellious against religious authority, rather than Christians who are hypocritical at every turn (be it American conservative closet homosexuals or "celibate" priests molesting children or "family values" activists cheating on their wives).
But surely early marriage, a la child bride thing, just comes about through circular reasoning: get the girls locked in with an old man asap and they're thereby "protected" from fornication or whatever.cherries wrote:people also get married very early,so the time when they are 'starved of sex" is relatively short, some more teenagers tend to be quite rebellious and stick less to the rules.
t2da2orri wrote:I am really hoping that these comments were not made while looking down on Islam. Islam has strict rules yes, but they were clearly set with good intentions. Just like there are bad Christians, and Jews, there are also bad Muslims. That we all know is a fact. There are plenty of Muslim people who manipulate rule and theories in the Quran to do things that are morally wrong. There are also very kind, and caring Muslims that have nothing to do with slavery or pre-marital sex. It is not wrong to believe in sex after marriage, nor is it wrong to avoid masturbation. There are plenty of people who are against abortion, so is it wrong to be against masturbation? I know it is a little far fetched but there is a relation.
Well I just don't know, what with the multiple-wives ladies urging the Muslim gents to have group-sex with their four wives. A bloke (unless he's a "prophet") can only do so much...Onyx8 wrote:Perhaps you could explain the relation between masturbation and abortion? I assume here you are restricting yourself to discussing male masturbation?
Oeditor wrote:Well I just don't know, what with the multiple-wives ladies urging the Muslim gents to have group-sex with their four wives. A bloke (unless he's a "prophet") can only do so much...Onyx8 wrote:Perhaps you could explain the relation between masturbation and abortion? I assume here you are restricting yourself to discussing male masturbation?
t2da2orri wrote:It is not wrong to believe in sex after marriage, nor is it wrong to avoid masturbation.
Not among Malaysiam polygamy-praising women, it says here: http://www.rationalskepticism.org/islam/malaysian-polygamy-club-encourages-group-sex-t26312.html I was going to post a link to the news article cited, but it's gone dead - I wonder why? An alternative source here http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j04d7sjDSsUBZkYNQZp6G9-FesZA?docId=CNG.14aedb15885aaac4cb5e428231bbfdcb.11 sayscherries wrote: actually group sex is another no no in islam,just saying
However, the Malaysian government confirms what you say, Paula, because they've banned the book. http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gczGjcFJ3Fxyz5yKyUM6lLDmDV7Q?docId=CNG.7962973a74cd76173780483048aa5a5b.191 Evidently written by schismatics!Malaysian polygamy club 'encourages group sex'
(AFP) – Oct 14, 2011
KUALA LUMPUR — An "Obedient Wife Club" known in Malaysia for its controversial views has published a book urging men in polygamous Muslim marriages to have group sex with their wives, a report said Friday.
Oeditor wrote: cherries wrote: actually group sex is another no no in islam,just saying
Not among Malaysiam polygamy-praising women, it says here: http://www.rationalskepticism.org/islam ... 26312.html I was going to post a link to the news article cited, but it's gone dead - I wonder why? An alternative source here http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... 1bbfdcb.11 says
Calilasseia wrote:It's nothing more than a disgusting attempt to confer an entirely specious "legitimacy", upon the desire of powerful men to stick their wicks where they please without any strings attached. It's a blatant attempt to sanctify rutting, a means of giving whoever happens to be the big cheese of the moment licence to use women as little more than seminal spittoons, without any obligations with respect to provision for her needs, or to cultivate a proper, loving relationship. Once again, the diseased vision of women as nothing more than pieces of sex-meat to be bought, sold and chewed at leisure, endemic within this verminous piece of mythological excrement, is utterly revolting to anyone who truly values women as human beings.
licence to use women as little more than seminal spittoons, without any obligations with respect to provision for her needs, or to cultivate a proper, loving relationship.
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