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As for the 'Transfer of Knowledge' from those Intelligent Designers...we have called GOD:

Hologram Codex Messages Inscribed onto the surfaces of certain artifacts...

Petro Photoglyphs (small photo inscribed stones):
http://www.impactoptics.com

The Virgin of Guadalupe...Tilma (a sacred agave fiber artifact):
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virgen_de_guadalupe_gif-11.gif
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virgen_de_guadalupe_gif-8.gif

You can't debunk this rock hard material evidence...You can't make it go away either!
laserles

laserles wrote:As for the 'Transfer of Knowledge' from those Intelligent Designers...we have called GOD:

Hologram Codex Messages Inscribed onto the surfaces of certain artifacts...

Petro Photoglyphs (small photo inscribed stones):
http://www.impactoptics.com

The Virgin of Guadalupe...Tilma (a sacred agave fiber artifact):
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virgen_de_guadalupe_gif-11.gif
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virgen_de_guadalupe_gif-8.gif

You can't debunk this rock hard material evidence...You can't make it go away either!
laserles

Yes I can:

1. It's absolute crap
2. Please go away.

Done.

Double post

Sniff.

RS

laserles wrote:As for the 'Transfer of Knowledge' from those Intelligent Designers...we have called GOD:

Could you perhaps parse that in a way that makes sense?

laserles wrote:Hologram Codex Messages Inscribed onto the surfaces of certain artifacts...

Petro Photoglyphs (small photo inscribed stones):
http://www.impactoptics.com

Oh noes; how can I possibly debunk that "rock hard" ( ) evidence?!
Oh that's right; with one word:
Pareidolia

laserles wrote:The Virgin of Guadalupe...Tilma (a sacred agave fiber artifact):
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virgen_de_guadalupe_gif-11.gif
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virgen_de_guadalupe_gif-8.gif

You can't debunk this rock hard material evidence...You can't make it go away either!
laserles

Ah the old "Our Lady of Guadalupe". Just a story told by gullible people from gullible times. And a rather silly one, with not a shred of evidential support. No; there is no evidence (that I have ever seen) that the image was created in the ridiculous way it is claimed. Apparently this "miraculous" image (despite positive efforts to hamper any efforts to examine it scientifically) shows distinct signs of brush marks (contrary to the claimed method of creation) and signs of being touched up and altered numerous times.

In short: You have nothing.
You thought you were dealing with complete amateurs didn't you? I mean did you seriously think that this would impress anyone but the most hopelessly gullible?


Oh but; Welcome to the forum laserles.

EDIT: And a couple of videos on the Lady that I just remembered seeing before (they are not limited to just that subject though):
Atheist Experience #342
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl_Ps8K19ho[/youtube]
Atheist Experience #465
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbaSG5HBv1s[/youtube]

laserles wrote:As for the 'Transfer of Knowledge' from those Intelligent Designers...we have called GOD:

Hologram Codex Messages Inscribed onto the surfaces of certain artifacts...

Petro Photoglyphs (small photo inscribed stones):
http://www.impactoptics.com

The Virgin of Guadalupe...Tilma (a sacred agave fiber artifact):
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virgen_de_guadalupe_gif-11.gif
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Virgen_de_guadalupe_gif-8.gif

You can't debunk this rock hard material evidence...You can't make it go away either!
laserles

This has got to be either someone trolling or a Poe. Just gotta be.

FinalLegion wrote:This has got to be either someone trolling or a Poe. Just gotta be.

Some on now, it's his first post. He just registered, and has not even been back yet to read even one post that came after his. He might just be some poor indoctrinated 'soul' who has brought into such nonsense. Try to remember that people indoctrinated into these cults often have weird "confirmation bias" ways of thought, where anything that it purported to confirm their cherished beliefs are almost immediately assumed to be obvious beyond all doubt. Sad but true.

You might well be correct of course. But let's not leap to conclusions too quickly. Give the guy a chance at least.

I guess this is the same guy then:

http://www.evolver.net/user/laserles

And this:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Laser-Les/1044423365

UnderConstruction wrote:I guess this is the same guy then:

http://www.evolver.net/user/laserles

And this:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Laser-Les/1044423365

Pretty sure it is, yes.
On the plus side; he has managed to PROVIDE SCIENTIFIC PROOF of GOD!

Except that was in 1994; funny that no one seems to have noticed.

Damn, so god has the painting skill of a top artist in the middle ages? Wow... It sucks we can paint much better then him these days... I guess almighty isn't what it used to be...

I would definitely say the images were designed ... but not sure about the "intelligent" bit.

Dear laserles,

Your "rock hard material evidence" is complete and utter shit (it's "material" all right! ... a squishy, brown, smelly material, and not at all effective for anything but fertilizing and praying to) --which amounts to ALMOST the same thing-- except that manure actually gives you a RETURN on your investment!

http://www.skepdic.com/pareidol.html



And THIS is still my favorite of all-time:



Laserles, you might also want to explain WHY your King of the Jews would appear in a pile of bacon drippings! As evidenced below:



I thought Jews preferred Kosher, and didn't eat the swine flesh!

I love it when bible-thumping nutbags find this website, claim Jeebus, post once and then run off ... never to be heard from again. I didn't even get to show him the image of Christ on my nutsack!

--GA

If the Virgin of Guadalupe had a supernatural origin, why does the image posess the artisitc conventions for iconographic art that were prevalent at the time it appeared? Why isn't it a photographic image, rather that an obvious artistic rendition?

GreatApe wrote:...
Laserles, you might also want to explain WHY your King of the Jews would appear in a pile of bacon drippings! As evidenced below:



I thought Jews preferred Kosher, and didn't eat the swine flesh!

I love it when bible-thumping nutbags find this website, claim Jeebus, post once and then run off ... never to be heard from again. I didn't even get to show him the image of Christ on my nutsack!

--GA

Oh come on now. Of course JAYsus! would appear in a pan of Bacon.

To look at you sternly and remind you. "Why you eatin bacon foo?"
"Look at me in my face.. Mad eof Bacon grease and fat. Look right into that crispy mess, and tell me why are you eating pig despite what I did not do."

Big brother is mean when he's omnipresent.

UnderConstruction wrote:I guess this is the same guy then:

http://www.evolver.net/user/laserles

And this:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Laser-Les/1044423365

I hold something...you will never be intelligent enough to understand...

You...hold nothing...& like all the other skeptics here...spew idiocies...

You-all are the 'leftovers from the deluge' and the 'remnants of Sodom and Gomorrah'.

have-at-it-idiots!

You-all are the 'leftovers from the deluge' and the 'remnants of Sodom and Gomorrah'.

[quote="Jie";p="1036739"]If the Virgin of Guadalupe had a supernatural origin, why does the image posess the artisitc conventions for iconographic art that were prevalent at the time it appeared? Why isn't it a photographic image, rather that an obvious artistic rendition?

If Mr. Bullshit could read...he would understand the image of the Virgin is inscribed with a perfect 3-dimensional hologram process whereby embedded sub-codices complete the message...and the understanding as to from where it came...extraterrestrial.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... ages-1.jpg

http://www.sancta.org/eyes.html

Certain hologram inscribed artifacts require no psychotropic stimulus to perceive the xenolinguistic communications...

Selective Spectrum Illumination...Spatial Specific Perception...Bi-Lateral Symmetry (to complete certain codex projections & orthographically shift the image position)...are the material factors required to perceive the alien messages inscribed on certain artifacts:

http://www.impactoptics.com/ProcessMethod.html

The Tilma...Virgin of Guadalupe subjected to Selective Spectrum Illumination:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... gif-11.gif

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... _gif-8.gif

Parallel Research with embedded Micro-Image Sub-Codices discovered within the Hologram Inscribed Artifacts...A Perfect 3-Dimensional Hologram Inscription Process...something well beyond current technological capabilities:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... ages-1.jpg

Petro Photoglyph Research...This will eventually be understood as 1st Contact:

I must be xenolinguistically challenged, because I have no idea what was said in the above post.

"this blur looks like that blur, therefore god".

laserles's evidence.