Solar Eclipses

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Solar Eclipses

#1  Postby Wortfish » Jul 02, 2020 4:34 pm

We all know the the law of gravity explains why celestial bodies orbit each other by the power of attraction between masses.

However, there is no physical law that fixes them in any kind of positional distance from each other.

A solar eclipse is made possible by the fact that the Sun is 400 times the distance the moon is to the Earth and that it is also 400 times larger in diameter: https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/total-solar-eclipse/en/

The solar eclipse is also not very regular - and so a special treat - because the moon's orbital plane is slightly misaligned from Earth's orbital plane around the sun: https://www.livescience.com/60037-do-ot ... ipses.html

Is this all just a happy coincidence that this astonishing phenomenon occurs only on Earth, the only planet know to contain intelligent life that can observe it? Or is it just further evidence for design in the universe?

You decide.
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Re: Solar Eclipses

#2  Postby The_Metatron » Jul 02, 2020 4:47 pm

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Re: Solar Eclipses

#3  Postby Animavore » Jul 02, 2020 4:47 pm

Well the Sun used to be smaller in the sky when the Earth was further away so I'd presume the Moon back then more than covered it and in the future it won't be enough.

So the only coincidence here really is us being here at this time when the two are more or less the same size in the sky.
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#4  Postby newolder » Jul 02, 2020 4:47 pm

The Earth's primary moon is receding at about 38 mm/year so it won't be long before all its Solar eclipses seen from Earth are annular like the last one was. This assumes, of course, that nothing emerges from the future dynamical chaos to displace either or both from current orbital projections.

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#5  Postby Animavore » Jul 02, 2020 4:50 pm

Wortfish wrote:Is this all just a happy coincidence that this astonishing phenomenon occurs only on Earth


Multiple eclipses on Jupiter at once.
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#6  Postby newolder » Jul 02, 2020 4:58 pm

^ Also, the tiny moons of Mars produce annular Solar eclipses on the planet below, e.g.



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Re: Solar Eclipses

#7  Postby Cito di Pense » Jul 02, 2020 5:03 pm

Wortfish wrote:

Is this all just a happy coincidence that this astonishing phenomenon occurs only on Earth, the only planet know to contain intelligent life that can observe it? Or is it just further evidence for design in the universe?

You decide.


The plane of the moon's orbit is inclined to the plane of earth's rotation by approximately 5.1°. Is this a special number or not? Is it exactly 5.1°? Why or why not? Why is the pole of earth's rotation inclined 23 and a fraction degrees to the plane of the ecliptic? What if the rotation axis were inclined parallel to the ecliptic? Would the climate be funkier? Anyway, this is why we don't have lunar and solar eclipses every month, like clockwork, like design.

What are all these numbers? Can they be the product of design, unless you crave to stuff some design in there? Why is is called the "ecliptic"? Do you see something in there that reminds you of "eclipse"? You decide, but prepare to be laughed off stage. Then you'll disappear for a few weeks to lick your wounds, but you'll be back, with yet further inane questions, having forgotten that you can't demonstrate any clever ability to troll a skeptic website. It's either that, or you're hiding your light under a bushel.
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Re: Solar Eclipses

#8  Postby Fallible » Jul 02, 2020 5:34 pm

Wortfish wrote:We all know the the law of gravity explains why celestial bodies orbit each other by the power of attraction between masses.

However, there is no physical law that fixes them in any kind of positional distance from each other.

A solar eclipse is made possible by the fact that the Sun is 400 times the distance the moon is to the Earth and that it is also 400 times larger in diameter: https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/total-solar-eclipse/en/

The solar eclipse is also not very regular - and so a special treat - because the moon's orbital plane is slightly misaligned from Earth's orbital plane around the sun: https://www.livescience.com/60037-do-ot ... ipses.html

Is this all just a happy coincidence that this astonishing phenomenon occurs only on Earth, the only planet know to contain intelligent life that can observe it? Or is it just further evidence for design in the universe?

You decide.


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#9  Postby laklak » Jul 02, 2020 5:47 pm

What you have to remember is it's designed to look exactly as if it weren't designed. If it was designed to look like it was designed then there'd be no point in "faith", which, as Mark Twain opined, is believing what you know ain't so.
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#10  Postby theropod_V_2.0 » Jul 02, 2020 6:00 pm

Do we need more evidence that the OP is a troll?

The alternative is very sad.

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#11  Postby felltoearth » Jul 02, 2020 7:14 pm

Wortfish wrote:We all know the the law of gravity explains why celestial bodies orbit each other by the power of attraction between masses.

However, there is no physical law that fixes them in any kind of positional distance from each other.

A solar eclipse is made possible by the fact that the Sun is 400 times the distance the moon is to the Earth and that it is also 400 times larger in diameter: https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/total-solar-eclipse/en/

The solar eclipse is also not very regular - and so a special treat - because the moon's orbital plane is slightly misaligned from Earth's orbital plane around the sun: https://www.livescience.com/60037-do-ot ... ipses.html

Is this all just a happy coincidence that this astonishing phenomenon occurs only on Earth, the only planet know to contain intelligent life that can observe it? Or is it just further evidence for design in the universe?

You decide.


Cool, so can you explain the perfection of phenomenon of solar eclipses in the context of the biblical model of the earth centred universe and its mechanism? I'll wait.
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Re: Solar Eclipses

#12  Postby Hermit » Jul 02, 2020 7:58 pm

Ray "Bananas" Comfort II strikes again.
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#13  Postby Blackadder » Jul 02, 2020 8:58 pm

Fucking eclipses. You can’t explain that.
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#14  Postby laklak » Jul 02, 2020 9:30 pm

Tides, eclipses, and bananas.

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#15  Postby Hermit » Jul 02, 2020 10:45 pm

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#16  Postby campermon » Jul 03, 2020 7:56 am

Wortfish wrote: Or is it just further evidence for design in the universe?

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Yes. Because we're special.

You're very special.

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#17  Postby BlackBart » Jul 03, 2020 1:48 pm

Big giant in the sky wuvs us vewwy vewwy muuch - he put big rock in sky in front of big light in sky so we go woooooooooooooooo
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#18  Postby Alan B » Jul 03, 2020 1:58 pm

If you watch the shadows of the moons of Jupiter cross its surface (as I have), it will be obvious that anyone in that shadow will experience a Solar eclipse. I'm not sure which god arranged that... :shifty:
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#19  Postby Svartalf » Jul 03, 2020 2:56 pm

Well, it's Jupiter, so it obviously was Zeus...
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#20  Postby Alan B » Jul 03, 2020 3:02 pm

Of course. Silly me.
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