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Jonathan McLatchie wrote:@SafeasMilk,
The actions of the Dover school board during the Dover trial was not condoned or supported by the Discovery Institute. "Creationism" is typically understood to mean young-earth creationism unless you add a qualifier (e.g. "progressive creationist"). Even at that, creationism generally refers to an attempt to read scientific data through the lens of a particular interpretation of Scripture. This is not my approach.
Yeah, because the DiscoTute bailed when they saw they were going to lose big time.Jonathan McLatchie wrote:@SafeasMilk,
The actions of the Dover school board during the Dover trial was not condoned or supported by the Discovery Institute.
And ID is very careful to try to pretend that they have nothing to do with Creationism, young-Earth or old-Earth, because they are trying to pretend that they aren't a religious viewpoint. However, certain smoking guns (cdesign proponentsists) give it away."Creationism" is typically understood to mean young-earth creationism unless you add a qualifier (e.g. "progressive creationist").
As opposed to ID, which tries to read scientific data through the lens of a non-specified "Designer" who happens to share all attributed with the Christian Deity.Even at that, creationism generally refers to an attempt to read scientific data through the lens of a particular interpretation of Scripture.
Love to hear your approach, and how it differs from the plainly religious approach of the DiscoTute.This is not my approach.
Jonathan McLatchie wrote: I think there are clear hallmarks of design in biology
Jonathan McLatchie wrote:@Weaver:
No, the Discovery Institute attempted, unsuccessfully, to persuade the Dover school board not to go through with what they were doing. It has been Discovery's long time education policy to oppose attempts to mandate the teaching of ID in public schools. The foolish actions of the Dover school board did a lot of damage, and we saw an intense spike in academic persecution of ID scientists following 2005.
Jonathan McLatchie wrote:@Rumraket,
Such as the digitally-encoded information intrinsic to the hereditary molecules of DNA and RNA. In every other realm of experience, complex and specified information uniformly traces its origin back to an intelligent source.
Jonathan McLatchie wrote:@Rumraket,
Such as the digitally-encoded information intrinsic to the hereditary molecules of DNA and RNA. In every other realm of experience, complex and specified information uniformly traces its origin back to an intelligent source.
Jonathan McLatchie wrote:
Regarding the 1980s Pandas textbook, I don't know a huge amount about that. But my understanding is that words like "creation" were used in a sense very different from classical creationism. In any case, I didn't have anything to do with the Pandas textbook. I wasn't even born when it was written.
That's meaningless since we know for a fact that evolution directly creates gene-sequences through mutation, drift and selection. You're essentially saying that evolution itself is an intelligent process.
Jonathan McLatchie wrote:@Shrunk,
Regarding the claim that the concept of specified complexity is meaningless, I suggest you read my blog post here:
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/08/tw ... 75771.html
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