Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#101  Postby Jumbo » Sep 03, 2012 7:00 pm

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Sityl wrote:Just watched Mullholland Drive. Man, that was the craziest movie. It was awesome.

I might have posted this elsewhere but thats one of my favorite movies ever.

I have the dvd edition with the bunch of postcards inside which is meant to give away the plot and meaning behind the movie...... it doesn't at all! :lol:


Damn it all to hell! Will its mysteries never be revealed to me??


She's dying and it's all a dream of what might have been.

Next! :naughty2:

Thats one of the theories hinted at by the postcards. IIRC its not the only one.

Though what meaning there is in the movie might be a bit illusory because it was not begun or entirely filmed as a movie. It was going to be the pilot for a tv series but the funding didn't work out. If that was the plot it would be hard to drag out over a whole series.

Must I be doomed to forever wander the earth thinking it's just a really beautifully executed excuse for some girl-on-girl action?

My other half is on holiday so i have been having movie night each night. I think tonights selection has just been made for me! :lol:
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#102  Postby BlackBart » Sep 03, 2012 7:55 pm

Jumbo wrote:
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I might have posted this elsewhere but thats one of my favorite movies ever.

I have the dvd edition with the bunch of postcards inside which is meant to give away the plot and meaning behind the movie...... it doesn't at all! :lol:


Damn it all to hell! Will its mysteries never be revealed to me??


She's dying and it's all a dream of what might have been.

Next! :naughty2:

Thats one of the theories hinted at by the postcards. IIRC its not the only one.

Though what meaning there is in the movie might be a bit illusory because it was not begun or entirely filmed as a movie. It was going to be the pilot for a tv series but the funding didn't work out. If that was the plot it would be hard to drag out over a whole series.

Must I be doomed to forever wander the earth thinking it's just a really beautifully executed excuse for some girl-on-girl action?

My other half is on holiday so i have been having movie night each night. I think tonights selection has just been made for me! :lol:


:nono: What's all this subtext and hidden meaning mumbo jumbo? Car chases and explosions, that's all you need. :thumbup:
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#103  Postby CookieJon » Sep 04, 2012 2:51 am

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Fallible wrote:
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I might have posted this elsewhere but thats one of my favorite movies ever.

I have the dvd edition with the bunch of postcards inside which is meant to give away the plot and meaning behind the movie...... it doesn't at all! :lol:


Damn it all to hell! Will its mysteries never be revealed to me??


She's dying and it's all a dream of what might have been.

Next! :naughty2:

Thats one of the theories hinted at by the postcards. IIRC its not the only one.

Though what meaning there is in the movie might be a bit illusory because it was not begun or entirely filmed as a movie. It was going to be the pilot for a tv series but the funding didn't work out. If that was the plot it would be hard to drag out over a whole series.


Oh I don't know... Twin Peaks lasted for two series and a movie on absolutely nothing!
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#104  Postby SafeAsMilk » Sep 04, 2012 2:54 am

And what a beautiful bit of nothing it was :dopey:
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#105  Postby orpheus » Sep 04, 2012 3:08 am

SafeAsMilk wrote:And what a beautiful bit of nothing it was :dopey:


+1. Loved it. And it stands up well; I just watched some episodes a few months ago. Fresh and strange as when they first breathed the scent of pine in that air.
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#106  Postby hadespussercats » Sep 04, 2012 3:18 am

Even the flying Jimmy Stewart head?

It's a great movie, but come on-- that's just silly.
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#107  Postby hadespussercats » Sep 04, 2012 3:20 am

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punter18 wrote:Vertigo is a masterpiece. Rear Window is a close second. All other films directed by Hitchcock, especially the more 'acclaimed' ones will find themselves among the list of other great films (and do); but they can never touch the genius of Vertigo. It's sublime, its cinematography and the use of dark color to emphasize sorrow was very unique. The slow, but taut, script helped carry the eeriness right till the end. It played the perfect foil to the climax. The film itself inspired dozens of individuals to take up film-making as a career. Its legacy may be overstated, but its influence cannot be denied.


I deny it has the influence you claim.

North by Northwest is, objectively, the best Hitchcock.

No way. Notorious! wins that title, any day.
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#108  Postby hadespussercats » Sep 04, 2012 3:23 am

Evolving wrote:No!

Actually the greatest film is Once upon a time in the West.

:clap: Good one!
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#109  Postby hadespussercats » Sep 04, 2012 3:26 am

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paceetrate wrote:I've seen Vertigo. It was very good, but I don't know that I'd call it the "Greatest Movie Ever" (that would probably go to something by Akira Kurosawa on my list. :P)


:nod:

When I say "greatest movie" ever, I mean "my favourite movie". I don't think I have any authority to decide what movie is the greatest, I just know what I like (same for any form of art really.)
Kurosawa, Lynch, Scorsese, Kubrick, Welles, Coppola, have made some of the greatest, bestest/most favouritest movies out there.

You mean Sofia Coppola, right? :grin:

(I'm joking-- but she does good work, I think.)
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#110  Postby hadespussercats » Sep 04, 2012 3:29 am

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He was ok in Wild at Heart I suppose, but then, he and Laura Dern both played fairly narrow stereotypes in that film, so ...
I don't doubt that largely played into his selection for the role :mrgreen:



And in Laura Dern's selection too methinks...though she did play the 'hot n wild' thang pretty well...


Let's just say I managed to suspend disbelief for those parts :grin:

Haven't seen anything she did before that...I thought she was great in Inland Empire.


Citizen Ruth, anyone?
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#111  Postby hadespussercats » Sep 04, 2012 3:32 am

Blip wrote:The Seventh Seal is one of the all-time greats and haunts me still, many, many years after first watching; OH, being asked, suggested Zulu as one of his favourites. Me, I've always loved Room With a View, but I'm a Forsterian and I enjoy Merchant Ivory.

A Room With A View is my favorite movie. Hands down.

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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#112  Postby CookieJon » Sep 04, 2012 8:08 am

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punter18 wrote:Vertigo is a masterpiece. Rear Window is a close second. All other films directed by Hitchcock, especially the more 'acclaimed' ones will find themselves among the list of other great films (and do); but they can never touch the genius of Vertigo. It's sublime, its cinematography and the use of dark color to emphasize sorrow was very unique. The slow, but taut, script helped carry the eeriness right till the end. It played the perfect foil to the climax. The film itself inspired dozens of individuals to take up film-making as a career. Its legacy may be overstated, but its influence cannot be denied.


I deny it has the influence you claim.

North by Northwest is, objectively, the best Hitchcock.

No way. Notorious! wins that title, any day.

Do you know, I've never actually seen that one!

(It'd have to be pretty bloody good though to beat NBN... I has a skeptical. :think: )
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#113  Postby virphen » Sep 04, 2012 8:21 am

I've watched both Notorious and Spellbound inside the last week or two. I don't think Notorious won even out of those two the plot was just so ridiculously outlandish, and that's in comparison to a film superficially based on Freudian psychoanalysis. Superb in lots of ways, but they date, oh do they date.
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#114  Postby CookieJon » Sep 04, 2012 9:08 am

virphen wrote:Superb in lots of ways, but they date, oh do they date.


North by Northwest is timeless. :coffee:
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#115  Postby Spinozasgalt » Sep 04, 2012 9:12 am

So I watched Vertigo again the other day and it was as good as I remember. How are you lot doin' over here with your movies that aren't the "greatest ever"?

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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#116  Postby virphen » Sep 04, 2012 9:15 am

CookieJon wrote:
virphen wrote:Superb in lots of ways, but they date, oh do they date.


North by Northwest is timeless. :coffee:


You have to admit, it has a plot hole or two. For instance, you want to kill a guy... and you have a way of getting him wherever you want him. So naturally, you get him out all on his own on a highway... so far so good... and attack him with a ... a... crop duster? WTF?
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#117  Postby BlackBart » Sep 04, 2012 9:23 am

virphen wrote:
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virphen wrote:Superb in lots of ways, but they date, oh do they date.


North by Northwest is timeless. :coffee:


You have to admit, it has a plot hole or two. For instance, you want to kill a guy... and you have a way of getting him wherever you want him. So naturally, you get him out all on his own on a highway... so far so good... and attack him with a ... a... crop duster? WTF?


The reason for that is simple....um...er...they, um...er...probably...er...'cause...um...er....errr...ummm....
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#118  Postby Beatrice » Sep 04, 2012 9:37 am

virphen wrote:
You have to admit, it has a plot hole or two. For instance, you want to kill a guy... and you have a way of getting him wherever you want him. So naturally, you get him out all on his own on a highway... so far so good... and attack him with a ... a... crop duster? WTF?


You're not even wrong Lezard :coffee:
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#119  Postby Blip » Sep 04, 2012 9:40 am

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SafeAsMilk wrote:And what a beautiful bit of nothing it was :dopey:


+1. Loved it. And it stands up well; I just watched some episodes a few months ago. Fresh and strange as when they first breathed the scent of pine in that air.


I'm beginning to suspect we have similar tastes in cinema, Orpheus. I haven't seen the film of Twin Peaks but the series was mesmerising. To this day, I occasionally speak of a 'damned fine cup of coffee'.

Who mentioned The Seven Samurai? That's another wonderful film.

On the subject of film music, one of the most memorable for me was McCabe and Mrs Miller. For those who haven't seen it, it features Leonard Cohen. The cinematography on that was beautiful too.
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Re: Vertigo now 'Greatest Movie Ever'

#120  Postby Jumbo » Sep 04, 2012 10:01 am

Oh I don't know... Twin Peaks lasted for two series and a movie on absolutely nothing!

Well season 1 was a murder mystery. Season 2 and the movie got more into the weird beings and powers that set the murder in motion and the like.

Mullholland Drive though is pretty self contained if the supposed plot is correct.

OH, being asked, suggested Zulu as one of his favourites.

Great film. Absolutely appalling historical accuracy though.
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