Animavore wrote:Looks like 2049 is floppy badly. Just like its predecessor. When this becomes a cult classic down the road; will I be on the wrong side of history?

Probably. You have a poor track record when it comes to recognising great cinema classics...

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Animavore wrote:Watching Commando. So terrible. At least it's funny bad. Unlike Blake Runner, which was just bad.

Commando is one of the best worst movies ever. The best part is trying to figure out which funny parts are intentional or not.

I thought the motorbike stunt in T2 was bad stunt doubling. Commando is full of it. I was reminded of this part in I'm Gonna Get You Sucka.

Hahaha!

I saw this movie in a bin somewhere , and now I'm starting to regret not picking it up.

sonny....

Did Charles Dance start the trend of The British Villain in The Last Action Hero?

Why didn't Charles Dance become awesome after TLAH? Why is it nearly 20 years 'til he becomes awesome?

Animavore wrote:Looks like 2049 is floppy badly. Just like its predecessor. When this becomes a cult classic down the road; will I be on the wrong side of history?

Maybe I'll see it when it comes to REd Box, if our machine hasn't frozen to death yet.

Be sure to warm the DVD gently when you bring it home.

This should take no more than 8 hours or so.

Charles Dance was also the best part of the otherwise disappointing movie The Golden Child (1986)...




The Last Action Hero definitely deserved to do better. Perhaps one of the reasons it didn't fare too well was the competition at the time. It was running against the box office phenomenon that was Jurassic Park.

was reading this the other day, funnily enough, which gives a lot of the background to the film's development...jurassic park was only the end of its problems.....i have a bit of a soft spot for it..

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/fea ... tion-hero/

UncertainSloth wrote:was reading this the other day, funnily enough, which gives a lot of the background to the film's development...jurassic park was only the end of its problems.....i have a bit of a soft spot for it..

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/fea ... tion-hero/

Interesting story.

Yep, an enjoyable read! Thanks for that, US.

Just saw BR 2049.

Sorry Ani. I thought it was amazing.

I'm going to write a song, in the style of James Taylor, called Everyone Likes Blade Runner 2049 But Me.

Ok, now I have to go see it

What I don't get is why something like Blade Runner 2049 gets a free pass for being all visuals and sound which barely covers its paper-thin story and lack of depth and Transformers, which is quite masterly in its handling of CGI, doesn't.

Animavore wrote:What I don't get is why something like Blade Runner 2049 gets a free pass for being all visuals and sound which barely covers its paper-thin story and lack of depth and Transformers, which is quite masterly in its handling of CGI, doesn't.

I guess it's the whole "world building" thing. In Blade Runner 2049, the FX are creating an atmospheric environment. In Transformers, it's (for the most part) just big, noisy action in comparatively familiar, everyday surroundings. I think that the appeal of "otherworldly" settings is significant. I'm not just teasing when I bring up the example of Avatar again. Many viewers who weren't particularly enamored with it's weak Fern Gully premise were nevertheless utterly enchanted with the world of Pandora. I kid you not...

* Avatar fans suicidal because planet Pandora is not real (The Telegraph)
* Audiences experience 'Avatar' blues (CNN)

Mike_L wrote:
* Avatar fans suicidal because planet Pandora is not real (The Telegraph)
* Audiences experience 'Avatar' blues (CNN)

Well, for a close-enough Na'vi experience, one can go to a native reserve in the US, and live their dystopian future. Or the scenario of Avatar 4, if Cameron is in a realistic mood.

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Mike_L wrote:
* Avatar fans suicidal because planet Pandora is not real (The Telegraph)
* Audiences experience 'Avatar' blues (CNN)

Well, for a close-enough Na'vi experience, one can go to a native reserve in the US, and live their dystopian future. Or the scenario of Avatar 4, if Cameron is in a realistic mood.

Realism is not what they desire! They'd much prefer this... an Avatar ride at Disney World...

I suspect Blade Runner49 comes a bit close to the reality we are/will face soon enough.
Avatar and other CGi feats are escape .....hell the orginal BR was done without CGI.

What there is in BR49 needed to catch a feel of the original (no CG atmospherics ) while adding effective CGi that's pretty damn close to AR/VR now but anticipating Ai based personal assistants/sex toys with in particular moving holo....something not evident now tho possible inside a closed environment.
Certainly a portable Ai with small projected Holo is possible.....tactile tho ??? difficult tho a former integration of the wetware in humans with the EM environment could certainly create the illusion effectively for the user (as opposed o the observer )
You would need the movie shot entirely in first person POV with the kind of AR and VR available now.

BR49 leaves a satisfying bit of mystery remaining ...if you think it's paper thin perhaps Transformers is your model piece

This is an interesting forum thread with comments from those that have seen it and some in 3D and some in 2D ( of course commenting on 3D without actually seeing it in three D .. )

https://www.avforums.com/threads/film-r ... 9.2125749/

Animavore wrote:What I don't get is why something like Blade Runner 2049 gets a free pass for being all visuals and sound which barely covers its paper-thin story and lack of depth and Transformers, which is quite masterly in its handling of CGI, doesn't.

What do you mean? The CG in the one I saw was terrible. All the robots are a blurry mess of metal that look exactly the same, everything looked fake, weightless and pasted on, and there was no subtlety at all in its use, everything's just in your face the whole time. It was some of the worst pro CG I've ever seen. Haven't seen BR 2049 yet, but the plot has to be deeper than Transformers. I wouldn't be surprised if the new BR is much less than the original, but it has to be more interesting than Megan Fox's tits and explosions every 5 seconds.