Accents. How do they develop?

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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#141  Postby Nostalgia » Feb 10, 2015 7:06 pm

Scarlett wrote:I struggle to tell the difference between Canadian and American.


I'm getting better at it but only because of the large number of both nationalities I meet in my job. I thought most people outside of N America had trouble telling the difference though. But I've never once been called American.... just Canadian. :dunno:
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#142  Postby Scarlett » Feb 10, 2015 7:09 pm

When the soldier was shot in Ottawa at the end of last year I thought the accents on TV were lovely, there was the French twang to it so I could tell the difference with that one.
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#143  Postby laklak » Feb 10, 2015 7:40 pm

Scarlett wrote:I struggle to tell the difference between Canadian and American.


Canucks say "eh?" at the end of every declarative sentence, whereas 'Murikans say "capisce?".
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#144  Postby Scarlett » Feb 10, 2015 7:44 pm

I wouldn't mistske your accent for Canadian I doubt, Lak :lol:
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#145  Postby Fallible » Feb 10, 2015 8:31 pm

Scarlett wrote:I struggle to tell the difference between Canadian and American.


U wot, luv?? :snooty:
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#146  Postby Fallible » Feb 10, 2015 8:34 pm

American sentence: If a person keeps talking about a boat, they're probably Canadian.
Canadian sentence: If a person keeps talking a boat a boat, they're probably Canadian.




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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#147  Postby Fallible » Feb 10, 2015 8:36 pm

Scarlett wrote:I wouldn't mistske your accent for Canadian I doubt, Lak :lol:


One of my tutors at uni used to keep going on about poyeems. Ridiculous people. Mind you, my dad says fillum, so...
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#148  Postby Scarlett » Feb 10, 2015 8:39 pm

I think I speak properly, it's everyone else doing it wrong! :lol:
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#149  Postby Evolving » Feb 10, 2015 8:39 pm

Fallible wrote:American sentence: If a person keeps talking about a boat, they're probably Canadian.
Canadian sentence: If a person keeps talking a boat a boat, they're probably Canadian.




People keep saying it's a boot, but it's not. It's a boat.


However:

Evolving wrote:The only reliable test that I know is the diphthong in words like "about"; but even that's not foolproof, because not all Canadians, drat them, pronounce it the way they're supposed to as Canadians.


I take it you're one of the reliable Canadians. (Some one told me this was really Toronto English. May be rubbish.)
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#150  Postby Evolving » Feb 10, 2015 8:40 pm

Scarlett wrote:I think I speak properly, it's everyone else doing it wrong! :lol:


Sorry, what was that?
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#151  Postby laklak » Feb 10, 2015 8:41 pm

Nairn of all y'all talk good.
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#152  Postby Scarlett » Feb 10, 2015 8:43 pm

Evolving wrote:
Scarlett wrote:I think I speak properly, it's everyone else doing it wrong! :lol:


Sorry, what was that?


:lol:

laklak wrote:Nairn of all y'all talk good.


Nairn is a seaside town along the coast from me. :grin:
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#153  Postby Evolving » Feb 10, 2015 8:47 pm

And just to prove how tolerant and open and whatnot I am, I don't mind laklak avoiding adverbs. German proves that a language can get along perfectly well without them.

I don't believe I shall ever be able to bring myself to say "talk good" myself. But if that is the way the language is going (and it seems that it probably is), so be it.
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#154  Postby Fallible » Feb 10, 2015 8:48 pm

Evolving wrote:
Fallible wrote:American sentence: If a person keeps talking about a boat, they're probably Canadian.
Canadian sentence: If a person keeps talking a boat a boat, they're probably Canadian.




People keep saying it's a boot, but it's not. It's a boat.


However:

Evolving wrote:The only reliable test that I know is the diphthong in words like "about"; but even that's not foolproof, because not all Canadians, drat them, pronounce it the way they're supposed to as Canadians.


I take it you're one of the reliable Canadians. (Some one told me this was really Toronto English. May be rubbish.)


Well I am from near Toronto (Burlington, Oakville, Scarborough), and am really only speaking rather authoritatively about my own experience when I've no cause to. That's not a Canadian thing, that's a me thing.

In reality there are actually some who sound like they're from LA and some who sound like Americans who've spent some time in the UK/Ireland, as well as the Frenchified ones. My rule (if one can call such a crappy thing a rule) is that if someone sounds North American but something's slightly off, if the accent 'softer' and 'rounder' than one might expect, with little stops at the ends of certain words and slightly longer vowel sounds and you can't quite place it, it's probably Canadian.
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#155  Postby Evolving » Feb 10, 2015 8:53 pm

I am one of the few surviving pronouncers of "often" as "awphen", by the way (to pick up on an earlier post). My mother is the only other that comes to mind. I also say "lawst", "acrawss" and (of course) "awf". But our accents were preserved in a time capsule from the late seventies.
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#156  Postby Scarlett » Feb 10, 2015 8:54 pm

Evolving wrote:I am one of the few surviving pronouncers of "often" as "awphen", by the way (to pick up on an earlier post). My mother is the only other that comes to mind. I also say "lawst", "acrawss" and (of course) "awf". But our accents were preserved in a time capsule from the late seventies.


:shock:

Are you, like, well posh?

I'm not sure we can be friends after this. :waah:
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#157  Postby Scarlett » Feb 10, 2015 8:58 pm

Evolving wrote:And just to prove how tolerant and open and whatnot I am, I don't mind laklak avoiding adverbs. German proves that a language can get along perfectly well without them.

I don't believe I shall ever be able to bring myself to say "talk good" myself. But if that is the way the language is going (and it seems that it probably is), so be it.


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Please don't have a go at me, Seabass, that was really funny!
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#158  Postby Evolving » Feb 10, 2015 8:58 pm

Scarlett wrote:
Evolving wrote:I am one of the few surviving pronouncers of "often" as "awphen", by the way (to pick up on an earlier post). My mother is the only other that comes to mind. I also say "lawst", "acrawss" and (of course) "awf". But our accents were preserved in a time capsule from the late seventies.


:shock:

Are you, like, well posh?

I'm not sure we can be friends after this. :waah:


Evolving wrote:In one flat we lived on the top floor, and we had oil heaters in a couple of rooms, and an oil boiler next to the bathtub in the bathroom, which we would light when someone wanted a bath. When the oil was running low somebody would have to go downstairs to the shed in the back garden next to the mountain, where the oil was kept in a tank, and fill up a kind of watering can from the tank and bring it back upstairs.
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#159  Postby Fallible » Feb 10, 2015 8:59 pm

Scarlett can only befriend people who say 'garridge' downwards to people who say 'chimley' I'm afraid, Evo.
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Re: Accents. How do they develop?

#160  Postby Scarlett » Feb 10, 2015 9:00 pm

Evolving wrote:
Scarlett wrote:
Evolving wrote:I am one of the few surviving pronouncers of "often" as "awphen", by the way (to pick up on an earlier post). My mother is the only other that comes to mind. I also say "lawst", "acrawss" and (of course) "awf". But our accents were preserved in a time capsule from the late seventies.


:shock:

Are you, like, well posh?

I'm not sure we can be friends after this. :waah:


Evolving wrote:In one flat we lived on the top floor, and we had oil heaters in a couple of rooms, and an oil boiler next to the bathtub in the bathroom, which we would light when someone wanted a bath. When the oil was running low somebody would have to go downstairs to the shed in the back garden next to the mountain, where the oil was kept in a tank, and fill up a kind of watering can from the tank and bring it back upstairs.


Ah, that'll be a no then. :hugs:

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