Repeal the 8th.

Amendment pertaining to abortion.

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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#421  Postby Fallible » May 27, 2018 8:58 am

It's just ridiculous to claim that identifying as Catholic means you would struggle with shit like this. I've lost count of how many Catholics I know who have no issue with sex before marriage, abortion, homosexuality - any number of issues that the church is against. So many people tick the CofE box on a form and are no more Christian than my left tit.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#422  Postby Scot Dutchy » May 27, 2018 9:18 am

Fallible wrote:It's just ridiculous to claim that identifying as Catholic means you would struggle with shit like this. I've lost count of how many Catholics I know who have no issue with sex before marriage, abortion, homosexuality - any number of issues that the church is against. So many people tick the CofE box on a form and are no more Christian than my left tit.


Exactly what I mean Fall. They identify their background. Even my wife who hates the church and what it did to her generation still identifies as catholic because that is her background.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#423  Postby Alan B » May 27, 2018 9:58 am

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Senior Tory women demand Theresa May ignore the opposition of her DUP allies and call a free vote on changing abortion laws in Northern Ireland

Senior Tory women have demanded Theresa May act to change the law on abortion in Northern Ireland after the landslide referendum in the Republic.

Following Friday's historic vote, Northern Ireland is set to be the last remaining place in the western world where abortion is effectively outlawed.

Equalities Minister Penny Mordaunt is leading calls inside Government for a free vote in Westminster to change the law in Northern Ireland. She is backed by her predecessors in the post.

The Prime Minister is reluctant to force through change for fear of antagonising the DUP, the socially conservative Northern Ireland party propping up her government.
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So, May is withholding abortion rights in NI in order to stay in power. If she is forced to bring NI up to date with the rest of the UK and Eire and the DUP withdraws their support - can we have our money back, please?
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#424  Postby Animavore » May 27, 2018 10:18 am

There were tons of women out in Dublin last night.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#425  Postby felltoearth » May 27, 2018 2:12 pm

jamest wrote:

... This probably means that religiosity in Ireland is declining rapidly,


Or it could mean that secularism is rising rapidly. One can still be religious and secular. What don’t you get about that?
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#426  Postby felltoearth » May 27, 2018 2:13 pm

Fallible wrote:It's just ridiculous to claim that identifying as Catholic means you would struggle with shit like this. I've lost count of how many Catholics I know who have no issue with sex before marriage, abortion, homosexuality - any number of issues that the church is against. So many people tick the CofE box on a form and are no more Christian than my left tit.

How Christian is your right tit?
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#427  Postby Scot Dutchy » May 27, 2018 2:24 pm

Even the church has realised it has no influence anymore.

Irish archbishops say abortion vote shows church's influence in Ireland is marginal

Church is seen by many as lacking compassion, archbishop of Dublin to tell congregation as pope remains silent on result

There were now three broad groupings in Ireland, he said. One was a deeply committed minority of churchgoers, “a remnant”. Secondly,there was a large group of people who were “nominally or culturally Catholic but who have drifted away from regular practice”. Finally, there were those who had “quite consciously” rejected the church and were hostile to its teaching.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#428  Postby felltoearth » May 27, 2018 3:06 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Even the church has realised it has no influence anymore.

Irish archbishops say abortion vote shows church's influence in Ireland is marginal

Church is seen by many as lacking compassion, archbishop of Dublin to tell congregation as pope remains silent on result

There were now three broad groupings in Ireland, he said. One was a deeply committed minority of churchgoers, “a remnant”. Secondly,there was a large group of people who were “nominally or culturally Catholic but who have drifted away from regular practice”. Finally, there were those who had “quite consciously” rejected the church and were hostile to its teaching.


As long as the church believes that theocracy is the best outcome for humanity, it will find itself becoming more and more marginalized.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#429  Postby Scot Dutchy » May 27, 2018 3:26 pm

Their last foothold in Ireland is education and health.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#430  Postby zulumoose » May 27, 2018 5:10 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Even the church has realised it has no influence anymore.


Church is seen by many as lacking compassion, archbishop of Dublin to tell congregation as pope remains silent on result

There were now three broad groupings in Ireland, he said. One was a deeply committed minority of churchgoers, “a remnant”. Secondly,there was a large group of people who were “nominally or culturally Catholic but who have drifted away from regular practice”. Finally, there were those who had “quite consciously” rejected the church and were hostile to its teaching.


Did anyone else notice that those who were never Catholic don't even exist in Ireland as per the wording above, nor does the other country in Ireland, apparently.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#431  Postby Shrunk » May 28, 2018 3:09 pm

Animavore wrote:There were tons of women out in Dublin last night.


And were they being all promiscuous and depraved now that they no longer have to take responsibility for their carnal desires, as the "No" side warned? :)
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#432  Postby Fallible » May 28, 2018 3:14 pm

felltoearth wrote:
Fallible wrote:It's just ridiculous to claim that identifying as Catholic means you would struggle with shit like this. I've lost count of how many Catholics I know who have no issue with sex before marriage, abortion, homosexuality - any number of issues that the church is against. So many people tick the CofE box on a form and are no more Christian than my left tit.

How Christian is your right tit?


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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#433  Postby BlackBart » May 28, 2018 4:50 pm

I know lots of Christians who are right tits. :coffee:
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#434  Postby Fallible » May 28, 2018 6:00 pm

:awesome:
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#435  Postby felltoearth » May 30, 2018 12:35 am

BlackBart wrote:I know lots of Christians who are right tits. :coffee:

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