Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#161  Postby Oeditor » Jan 16, 2013 9:25 pm

Hajj Baba Mustafa wrote:Except that the words "Pen" and "Tablet", as every Qur'anic exegete knows, refer to the "Intellect" and the "Soul". They are of allegorical meaning, rather than referring to some inscription in stone or metal. It helps to study.
So, that part of the Koran is allegorical, and needs interpreters. How do the exegetes know what it means?* How does that make it clear to all mankind? How much else is fairy stories?
*and how come they don't know what that jim jam bim bam alif lam mim stuff means?
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#162  Postby Just A Theory » Jan 18, 2013 6:17 am

trubble76 wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
trubble76 wrote:Umm, let's just pretend I didn't ask, okay?

Embrace the pop culture, be part of the collective! ;)


I promise to embrace all the pop culture that I can understand.


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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#163  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 18, 2013 1:09 pm

Hajj - you lost this debate a long time ago; only YOU have failed to notice. Interesting that, eh?
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#164  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 19, 2013 6:49 pm

Incidentally, Hajj was pulling our legs - the Voynich manuscript is the only example of an inimitable book! :P
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#165  Postby Fenrir » Jan 20, 2013 4:53 am

I wrote a sura which is perfect and inimitable and poetic and every other superlative I can think of.

No mere mortal could have writted it, coz I say so.

هراء هراء خيالي هو


You'll note it's in Arabic, so it has to be good, coz i said so.
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#166  Postby Precambrian Rabbi » Jan 20, 2013 8:52 am

Fenrir wrote:
هراء هراء خيالي هو



:coffee:

:ask:

:shock:
:o
:shocked:

:bowdown:


(Of course, I have no clue what it means; I just somehow found myself inimitably mesmerised by the profundity of its eloquence)
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#167  Postby NilsGLindgren » Jan 20, 2013 9:53 am

Fenrir, if that turns into a religion, sect, or cult, you are sooo going to see the sharp end of my Smacking Cane.
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#168  Postby Fenrir » Jan 20, 2013 10:32 am

Probably not much chance of that

Fanciful bullshit is bullshit


Mind you google insists the correct translation is "Fanciful nonsense is nonsense" so we already have a schism due to incorrect exegesis of the divine word. I'm issuing a fatwa.
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#169  Postby Oeditor » Jan 20, 2013 10:44 am

Not quite so profound as mine, though:
وبيم بام بو للام ليم الحما
[Reveal] Spoiler:
a bim bam boo a lim lam loo
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#170  Postby NilsGLindgren » Jan 20, 2013 2:31 pm

Fenrir wrote:Probably not much chance of that

Fanciful bullshit is bullshit


Mind you google insists the correct translation is "Fanciful nonsense is nonsense" so we already have a schism due to incorrect exegesis of the divine word. I'm issuing a fatwa.


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Fenrir, if that turns into a religion, sect, or cult, you are sooo going to see the sharp end of my Smacking Cane.



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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#171  Postby Scar » Jan 21, 2013 12:36 pm

وكان محمد للأطفال بالتحرش مورون.
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#172  Postby mickeko » Feb 02, 2013 12:37 pm

There is more than one copy of the Quran, every one of them an imitation. Case closed. :)

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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#173  Postby prove-me-wrong » Jul 03, 2013 7:32 am

http://www.quranmiracles.com

nobody has ever been able to debunk the great miracles in the holy quran!

I highly suggest you all look through that website. It is very enlightening.
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#174  Postby Bribase » Jul 03, 2013 9:05 am

Your trolling is less than convincing, prove-me-wrong.
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#175  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Jul 03, 2013 9:09 am

prove-me-wrong wrote:http://www.quranmiracles.com

nobody has ever been able to debunk the great miracles in the holy quran!

Yes they have.

prove-me-wrong wrote:I highly suggest you all look through that website. It is very enlightening.

We're not going to do your work for you.
Present these so called miracles and we'll see what you've got.
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#176  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jul 03, 2013 11:20 am

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
prove-me-wrong wrote:http://www.quranmiracles.com

nobody has ever been able to debunk the great miracles in the holy quran!

Yes they have.

prove-me-wrong wrote:I highly suggest you all look through that website. It is very enlightening.

We're not going to do your work for you.
Present these so called miracles and we'll see what you've got.


Strange on the very same thread as well. :think:
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#177  Postby ADParker » Jul 03, 2013 12:00 pm

prove-me-wrong wrote:http://www.quranmiracles.com

nobody has ever been able to debunk the great miracles in the holy quran!

Or reliably verify that them either as far as I am aware. And that's the way they can be said to be of any value.

prove-me-wrong wrote:I highly suggest you all look through that website. It is very enlightening.

I thought you were interested in debate. Tell you what; why don't you describe what you consider to be the best, most convincing/revealing one, and we can discuss it from there? ;)
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#178  Postby Shrunk » Jul 03, 2013 2:36 pm

I don't think there can be any doubt that this is the best scientific miracle in the Quran:

The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghah stage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance."

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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#179  Postby laklak » Jul 03, 2013 3:20 pm

I wipe my ass with the Holy Quran. That's when it magically becomes the "Hole Quran".
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Re: Debunking all 'miracles of the Quran'.

#180  Postby hackenslash » Jul 03, 2013 10:11 pm

No, for me the best miracle of the Qu'ran is that people still believe this bollocks.

News flash! Allah = Yahweh = impossible entity.

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