NilsGLindgren wrote:

campermon wrote:Is there anywhere on the webz with a list of scientific claims from the koran and their subsequent debukation (is that a word/ ) ?

(My underline) No, the correct term is deburqation (n., as in, removing an unnecessary amount of stuff that keeps out fresh air and hides what there is no reason to hide, from, Wisdom of Nils, volume 7)

CarlPierce wrote:Turns out they predicted the existance of the Higgs boson in the Koran as well. We could have saved billions.

Scot Dutchy wrote:Rikkets is very prevelent in Saudie Arabia.

byofrcs wrote:The mental gymnastics that those Muslims who try and show how the Koran is prescient to science is astounding. Here is a perfect example,

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_30.html

which is by a well known crook, Harun Yahya, which quotes the Qur'an sura, 57:25 "And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind… "

They mention the nova/supernova and the fusion limit of iron but the real lies are when they explain this,

"All this shows that iron did not form on the Earth, but was carried from Supernovas, and was "sent down," as stated in the verse. It is clear that this fact could not have been known in the 7th century, when the Qur'an was revealed. Nevertheless, this fact is related in the Qur'an, the Word of Allah, Who encompasses all things in His infinite knowledge. "

Oh no it doesn't, what the Koran is describing is iron-meteorites and not stellar nuclear synthesis. Most iron on this planet accreted along with all the elements on Earth i.e. pretty well ALL the elements "fell" from the sky including the most abundant metal that no religious book has ever mentioned - aluminium. Sure iron is essential but so are copper, cobalt and zinc and they have also been fused in stars but the Koran doesn't support them being synthesised in that way.

In the end a proper education of children will slow these lying Muslims from poisoning the understanding of the natural sciences and Harun Yahya's crap must never enter in any school unless it is in the form of recycled pulp used for toilet paper.

Pertinax wrote:

byofrcs wrote:The mental gymnastics that those Muslims who try and show how the Koran is prescient to science is astounding. Here is a perfect example,

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_30.html

which is by a well known crook, Harun Yahya, which quotes the Qur'an sura, 57:25 "And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind… "

They mention the nova/supernova and the fusion limit of iron but the real lies are when they explain this,

"All this shows that iron did not form on the Earth, but was carried from Supernovas, and was "sent down," as stated in the verse. It is clear that this fact could not have been known in the 7th century, when the Qur'an was revealed. Nevertheless, this fact is related in the Qur'an, the Word of Allah, Who encompasses all things in His infinite knowledge. "

Oh no it doesn't, what the Koran is describing is iron-meteorites and not stellar nuclear synthesis. Most iron on this planet accreted along with all the elements on Earth i.e. pretty well ALL the elements "fell" from the sky including the most abundant metal that no religious book has ever mentioned - aluminium. Sure iron is essential but so are copper, cobalt and zinc and they have also been fused in stars but the Koran doesn't support them being synthesised in that way.

In the end a proper education of children will slow these lying Muslims from poisoning the understanding of the natural sciences and Harun Yahya's crap must never enter in any school unless it is in the form of recycled pulp used for toilet paper.

57:25 "And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind… "

What it really means
Tafsir Ibn Kathir
(And We brought forth iron wherein is mighty power,) meaning, `We made iron a deterrent for those who refuse the truth and oppose it after the proof has been established against them.' Allah's Messenger remained in Makkah for thirteen years. During that time, the revelation continued being sent to him, containing arguments against the idolators and explaining Tawhid with detail and proofs. When the evidence was established against those who defied the Messenger , Allah decreed the Hijrah. Then He ordered the believers to fight the disbelievers using swords, using them to strike the necks and foreheads of those who opposed, rejected and denied the Qur'an.
(wherein is mighty power,) in reference to weapons, such as swords, spears, daggers, arrows, shields, and so forth,

shukr26338 wrote:birth of human being in al quran - checck it out at http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_57.html

Conclusion

The Qur'anic Embryology Pseudoscience can be seen to be false due to the following points:

1. The Qur'an itself omits mention of the ovum in human reproduction, with doctrinal evidence that it regards the progeny to be the resulting union between the seed from the male parent and the female parent as tilth. As tilth do not provide genetic material to the seed, it is abundantly clear that the Qur'an regards the nutfah (semen) as the diploid seed. Moreover, the choice of the words nutfah (small amount of liquid) and maa' maheenin (water/liquid disdained) in key passages indicate a belief that the embryo is formed out of semen, with no knowledge of the sperm cell.

2. The Qur'an includes an initial dust stage that cannot be reconciled with modern embryology.

3. The missing stages of verse 40:67 contradict the other embryology verses.

4. The stages of bone formation then clothing with flesh is in error, even assuming that izhaam means both bone and cartilage.

5. The Qur'anic view of cell differentiation at the Mudgha stage is incorrect, as modern embryology has discovered cell differentiation occurring before and after the putative ‘Mudgha’ stage.

6. The QEP claim that Qur'an correctly predicted the beginning of the fetal stage is debunked because the transition between the embryo and the fetus is arbitrary.

7. The QEP claim that the Qur'an correctly states the least period of conception at 24 weeks is in error, as according to modern medical knowledge this period is closer to 21-22 weeks or even less with advanced medical science, and at least 30 weeks without modern medical assistance.

http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Embryology_in_the_Qur%27an