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Widespread Support for Islam in Britiain

#1  Postby alienpresence » Jun 07, 2010 6:59 am

In your dreams, mate!

Britons link Islam with extremism, says survey
BBC News Online.

Most people in the UK associate Islam with extremism and the repression of women, a survey has suggested.

The online YouGov poll was conducted for moderate Muslim organization the Exploring Islam Foundation.

Some 58% of those surveyed said they linked Islam with extremism.

Asked if Muslims had a positive impact on British society, four out of 10 disagreed with the statement while seven out of 10 said the religion encouraged the repression of women.

Negative picture

Half linked Islam with terrorism, just 13% thought it was based on peace and 6% associated it with justice.

BBC home editor Mark Easton says the survey, conducted by YouGov for the foundation, paints a negative picture of British attitudes to Islam.

The foundation has been established to challenge what it calls "damaging stereotypes" and misconceptions about the religion.

It represents part of an international liberal Islamic movement that has developed to challenge negative views among non-Muslims and counter those Muslims who claim Western cultural values are a threat.

The foundation's campaign stresses the ways in which Muslims balance religious tradition with contemporary human rights and social responsibility.
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Re: Widespread Support for Islam in Britiain

#2  Postby Hugin » Jun 07, 2010 7:48 am

Why don't you provide a link?

Further, why is it supposed to be a "balance" between religious tradition and human rights? Human rights should trump religion every single time.
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Re: Widespread Support for Islam in Britiain

#3  Postby alienpresence » Jun 07, 2010 7:53 am

Hugin wrote:Why don't you provide a link?

Further, why is it supposed to be a "balance" between religious tradition and human rights? Human rights should trump religion every single time.


That's the entire article. I'd supply a link if it was more involved.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10251827.stm
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Re: Widespread Support for Islam in Britiain

#4  Postby Oeditor » Jun 07, 2010 10:28 am

Their Flash-infested web site is here: http://www.eifoundation.net/
They have a link to the results of their survey: http://www.inspiredbymuhammad.com/yougov but it doesn't work. They may not have activated it yet - they intended to release the results when they launched their organisation, maybe prayer time got in the way.
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Inspired by Muhammad Campaign

#5  Postby DoctorE » Jun 07, 2010 11:01 am


A campaign to improve the image of Islam has been launched after an opinion poll found that more than half of British people associate the religion with extremism and terrorism.

"Inspired by Muhammad" aims to promote Islam as a faith which contributes positively to British society.

Posters of Muslims with captions like: "I believe in rights for women... so did Muhammad" will feature at bus stops, Tube stations and on London cabs.

Continues: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-New ... 6115644684
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Re: Inspired by Muhammad Campaign

#6  Postby kiki5711 » Jun 07, 2010 11:30 am

"I believe in rights for women... so did Muhammad"
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Re: Widespread Support for Islam in Britiain

#7  Postby alienpresence » Jun 07, 2010 11:59 am

Is it gonna be linked to a bus campaign? :roll:
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Re: Widespread Support for Islam in Britiain

#8  Postby Oeditor » Jun 07, 2010 12:15 pm

alienpresence wrote:Is it gonna be linked to a bus campaign? :roll:
According to this parallel thread, it's going to be a bus-stop campaign :)

Posters of Muslims with captions like: "I believe in rights for women... so did Muhammad" will feature at bus stops, Tube stations and on London cabs.
http://www.rationalskepticism.org/islam/inspired-by-muhammad-campaign-t8195.html
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Re: Inspired by Muhammad Campaign

#9  Postby Jakov » Jun 07, 2010 12:34 pm

Says 68% of people feel islam encourages repression of women, it is completely taken for granted that they are wrong.. :ask:

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Where does their money come from for campaigns like this? Donations? Oil money?
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Re: Inspired by Muhammad Campaign

#10  Postby Paul G » Jun 07, 2010 12:35 pm

I hate image campaigns. Guys, the problem with Islam is not the image but the substance.
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Re: Inspired by Muhammad Campaign

#11  Postby Arcanyn » Jun 07, 2010 12:43 pm

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Re: Inspired by Muhammad Campaign

#12  Postby nastler » Jun 07, 2010 12:47 pm

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Re: Widespread Support for Islam in Britiain

#14  Postby Oeditor » Jun 07, 2010 2:32 pm

According to the Dail Express, http://tinyurl.com/29ugek9 the director of the Exploring Islam Foundation Wakkas Khan is a newly appointed government advisor. As president of the Federation of Student Islamic Societies (FOSIS) they say he supported the rehabilitation of Hizb ut-Tahrir by the National Union of Students. According to the FOSIS web site
Exploring Islam Foundation is UK based, and is a subsidiary of IIDR.
http://oldsite.fosis.org.uk/committees/iac/docs/FOSISIAPResourceGuide2006.pdf
IIDR seems to be the Islamic Institute for Development & Research http://www.iidr.org/ It appears to be concerned mainly with running courses on the practices of Islam such as how to treat your wives and where to bank your money.
I can't find either organisation on the Charity Commission site.
EIF's domain is registered at a Birmingham address to a Sarah Moor
IIDR's under its own initials at an address in Belgravia, London - sounds expensive.
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Re: Inspired by Muhammad Campaign

#15  Postby Mazille » Jun 07, 2010 2:43 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
"I believe in rights for women... so did Muhammad"
:scratch: :scratch: :drunk: :drunk:


Like the right to remain silent, for example? :scratch:
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Re: Widespread Support for Islam in Britiain

#16  Postby alienpresence » Jun 07, 2010 2:45 pm

Oeditor wrote:According to the Dail Express, http://tinyurl.com/29ugek9 the director of the Exploring Islam Foundation Wakkas Khan is a newly appointed government advisor. As president of the Federation of Student Islamic Societies (FOSIS) they say he supported the rehabilitation of Hizb ut-Tahrir by the National Union of Students. According to the FOSIS web site
Exploring Islam Foundation is UK based, and is a subsidiary of IIDR.
http://oldsite.fosis.org.uk/committees/iac/docs/FOSISIAPResourceGuide2006.pdf
IIDR seems to be the Islamic Institute for Development & Research http://www.iidr.org/ It appears to be concerned mainly with running courses on the practices of Islam such as how to treat your wives and where to bank your money.
I can't find either organisation on the Charity Commission site.
EIF's domain is registered at a Birmingham address to a Sarah Moor
IIDR's under its own initials at an address in Belgravia, London - sounds expensive.


Probably Saudi money?
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Re: Inspired by Muhammad Campaign

#17  Postby Paul G » Jun 07, 2010 3:33 pm

Mazille wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
"I believe in rights for women... so did Muhammad"
:scratch: :scratch: :drunk: :drunk:


Like the right to remain silent, for example? :scratch:


The right not to be seen.
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Re: Inspired by Muhammad Campaign

#18  Postby alienpresence » Jun 07, 2010 3:47 pm

Paul G wrote:
Mazille wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
"I believe in rights for women... so did Muhammad"
:scratch: :scratch: :drunk: :drunk:


Like the right to remain silent, for example? :scratch:


The right not to be seen.


The right to vitamin D deficiency. :thumbup:
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Re: Inspired by Muhammad Campaign

#19  Postby Oeditor » Jun 08, 2010 11:55 am

Jakov wrote:Where does their money come from for campaigns like this? Donations? Oil money?
According to Douglas Murray in the Telegraph, it's coming from the taxpayer.
It is being strongly pedalled by taxpayer-funded Muslim organisations. Which makes it another nice example of the British people being preached to and proselytised in an Islamic way, presumably at our own expense.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/douglasmurray/100042500/mohammed-believed-in-womens-rights-says-poster-campaign-oh-really/
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