GT2211 wrote:

Willie71 wrote:

GT2211 wrote:Bad news for Bern he is still 200 delegates down and the schedule is about to turn back to HRC after Wisconsin.

How do you figure?

New York is Clintons home state. It has a fairly large minority population. It has few too few polls for 538 to project but the most recent one a few days ago had Clinton up nearly 50. I think that's probably an outlier, but they should win that state. Maryland has a huge black population. Demographically not that different than Virginia which she won by 30. It's a state HRC should expect to win by 20.

NY alone has more delegates than the states Bern is winning today plus WI n WY combined.

PA is similar to Ohio which HRC won comfortably.

Willie71 wrote:Unofficial reports from Hawaii have a split of 70/30 to 75/25 in Sanders favour.

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Saim wrote:

Willie71 wrote:Unofficial reports from Hawaii have a split of 70/30 to 75/25 in Sanders favour.

But I thought only white people voted Sanders.

Acetone wrote:Any word on what happened at Arizona and what's gonna come of it?

Willie71 wrote:

Saim wrote:

Willie71 wrote:Unofficial reports from Hawaii have a split of 70/30 to 75/25 in Sanders favour.

But I thought only white people voted Sanders.

It seems that only people who don't get their information from old media vote for Sanders. Old, conservative minded people vote for Clinton.

laklak wrote:

Willie71 wrote:

Saim wrote:

Willie71 wrote:Unofficial reports from Hawaii have a split of 70/30 to 75/25 in Sanders favour.

But I thought only white people voted Sanders.

It seems that only people who don't get their information from old media vote for Sanders. Old, conservative minded people vote for Clinton.

Perhaps. But there are other ways to look at it. Maybe people with a bit of experience in both the political arena and life in general understand that Bernie's proposals are unworkable and doomed to failure. Perhaps they've looked at other countries that have tried it, like Venezuela. Maybe the people voting for Bernie are very like those who voted McGovern or Muskie or Mondale, or even Carter. Maybe in 20 years those Feel The Bernites will be voting Republican. Certainly has happened before.

laklak wrote:

Willie71 wrote:

Saim wrote:

Willie71 wrote:Unofficial reports from Hawaii have a split of 70/30 to 75/25 in Sanders favour.

But I thought only white people voted Sanders.

It seems that only people who don't get their information from old media vote for Sanders. Old, conservative minded people vote for Clinton.

Perhaps. But there are other ways to look at it. Maybe people with a bit of experience in both the political arena and life in general understand that Bernie's proposals are unworkable and doomed to failure. Perhaps they've looked at other countries that have tried it, like Venezuela. Maybe the people voting for Bernie are very like those who voted McGovern or Muskie or Mondale, or even Carter. Maybe in 20 years those Feel The Bernites will be voting Republican. Certainly has happened before.

Willie71 wrote:

laklak wrote:

Willie71 wrote:

Saim wrote:

But I thought only white people voted Sanders.

It seems that only people who don't get their information from old media vote for Sanders. Old, conservative minded people vote for Clinton.

Perhaps. But there are other ways to look at it. Maybe people with a bit of experience in both the political arena and life in general understand that Bernie's proposals are unworkable and doomed to failure. Perhaps they've looked at other countries that have tried it, like Venezuela. Maybe the people voting for Bernie are very like those who voted McGovern or Muskie or Mondale, or even Carter. Maybe in 20 years those Feel The Bernites will be voting Republican. Certainly has happened before.

An American fiction.

Demanding that the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share in taxes. As president, Sen. Sanders will stop corporations from shifting their profits and jobs overseas to avoid paying U.S. income taxes. He will create a progressive estate tax on the top 0.3 percent of Americans who inherit more than $3.5 million. He will also enact a tax on Wall Street speculators who caused millions of Americans to lose their jobs, homes, and life savings.

Increasing the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour by 2020. In the year 2015, no one who works 40 hours a week should be living in poverty.

Putting at least 13 million Americans to work by investing $1 trillion over five years towards rebuilding our crumbling roads, bridges, railways, airports, public transit systems, ports, dams, wastewater plants, and other infrastructure needs.

Reversing trade policies like NAFTA, CAFTA, and PNTR with China that have driven down wages and caused the loss of millions of jobs. If corporate America wants us to buy their products they need to manufacture those products in this country, not in China or other low-wage countries.

Creating 1 million jobs for disadvantaged young Americans by investing $5.5 billion in a youth jobs program. Today, the youth unemployment rate is off the charts. We have got to end this tragedy by making sure teenagers and young adults have the jobs they need to move up the economic ladder.

Fighting for pay equity by signing the Paycheck Fairness Act into law. It is an outrage that women earn just 78 cents for every dollar a man earns.

Making tuition free at public colleges and universities throughout America. Everyone in this country who studies hard should be able to go to college regardless of income.

Expanding Social Security by lifting the cap on taxable income above $250,000. At a time when the senior poverty rate is going up, we have got to make sure that every American can retire with dignity and respect.

Guaranteeing healthcare as a right of citizenship by enacting a Medicare for all single-payer healthcare system. It’s time for the U.S. to join every major industrialized country on earth and provide universal healthcare to all.

Requiring employers to provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; two weeks of paid vacation; and 7 days of paid sick days. Real family values are about making sure that parents have the time they need to bond with their babies and take care of their children and relatives when they get ill.

Enacting a universal childcare and prekindergarten program. Every psychologist understands that the most formative years for a human being is from the ages 0-3. We have got to make sure every family in America has the opportunity to send their kids to a high quality childcare and pre-K program.

Making it easier for workers to join unions by fighting for the Employee Free Choice Act. One of the most significant reasons for the 40-year decline in the middle class is that the rights of workers to collectively bargain for better wages and benefits have been severely undermined.

Breaking up huge financial institutions so that they are no longer too big to fail. Seven years ago, the taxpayers of this country bailed out Wall Street because they were too big to fail. Yet, 3 out of the 4 largest financial institutions are 80 percent bigger today than before we bailed them out. Sen. Sanders has introduced legislation to break these banks up. As president, he will fight to sign this legislation into law.

Saim wrote:

Willie71 wrote:Unofficial reports from Hawaii have a split of 70/30 to 75/25 in Sanders favour.

But I thought only white people voted Sanders.

#BernieMadeMeWhite Calls Out the Media’s Whitewashing of Bernie Sanders Supporters

Twitter is expertly skewering the corporate media for erasing the contributions that people of color have made to the Bernie Sanders campaign with #BernieMadeMeWhite.

Two of the last three states Bernie Sanders won by landslide margins — Alaska and Hawaii — are also very ethnically diverse. One-third of Alaska’s population is Native American, Asian, Black, Pacific Islander, or of mixed race. And three-fourths of Hawaii’s population is made up of people of color, with nearly 50 percent being Asian.

Furthermore, Washington State ranks among the ten most ethnically diverse states in the country. But this didn’t stop cable media pundits from belittling Bernie Sanders’ victories by falsely claiming that the populations of those states are mostly white in order to justify the false narrative that the Vermont senator is unable to connect to nonwhite voters...

In sweeping the Western caucuses yesterday, Sanders proved he’s viable with a wide swath of American voters, busting one of the main myths propagated by Clinton surrogates on national cable media networks. This is similar to the “Berniebro” narrative circulated earlier this year, in which liberal media pundits snidely mischaracterized Bernie Sanders supporters as mostly white, mostly male, and incredibly sexist.

However, this was proven to be patently untrue, as women — particularly young women — are some of Sanders’ biggest supporters. And Sanders fans come from a wide range of cultures, as Sanders has a track record of advocating for criminal justice reform, immigrants’ rights, and indigenous rights.

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Oldskeptic wrote:

Willie71 wrote:

laklak wrote:

Willie71 wrote:

It seems that only people who don't get their information from old media vote for Sanders. Old, conservative minded people vote for Clinton.

Perhaps. But there are other ways to look at it. Maybe people with a bit of experience in both the political arena and life in general understand that Bernie's proposals are unworkable and doomed to failure. Perhaps they've looked at other countries that have tried it, like Venezuela. Maybe the people voting for Bernie are very like those who voted McGovern or Muskie or Mondale, or even Carter. Maybe in 20 years those Feel The Bernites will be voting Republican. Certainly has happened before.

An American fiction.

I put together a comprehensive critique of Sanders' 13 unworkable promises regarding income and wealth inequality here in this same thread five months ago.

No one here wanted to take it on at that time. Perhaps someone would like to now? Point by point, rather than just posting snide one liners or declaring that Bernie's heart is in the right place or pointing out that all candidates make promises they know they can't keep and don't intend to.

Oldskeptic wrote:

Willie71 wrote:

laklak wrote:

Willie71 wrote:

It seems that only people who don't get their information from old media vote for Sanders. Old, conservative minded people vote for Clinton.

Perhaps. But there are other ways to look at it. Maybe people with a bit of experience in both the political arena and life in general understand that Bernie's proposals are unworkable and doomed to failure. Perhaps they've looked at other countries that have tried it, like Venezuela. Maybe the people voting for Bernie are very like those who voted McGovern or Muskie or Mondale, or even Carter. Maybe in 20 years those Feel The Bernites will be voting Republican. Certainly has happened before.

An American fiction.

I put together a comprehensive critique of Sanders' 13 unworkable promises regarding income and wealth inequality here in this same thread five months ago.

No one here wanted to take it on at that time. Perhaps someone would like to now? Point by point, rather than just posting snide one liners or declaring that Bernie's heart is in the right place or pointing out that all candidates make promises they know they can't keep and don't intend to.