Thommo wrote:

jamest wrote:I've offered my best wishes to you and you've farted in my face. No worries. You still have my best wishes. Happy fuckin' Xmas dear.

That does not sound sincere:

jamest wrote:My only hope tonight is that you're all feeling as miserable and lost as you've made US - the majority - feel over the last three years. Hahaha.

You can't wish people misery and then pretend you're some sort of philanthrope or well-wisher.

There is such an enormous gap between the genuine views and sentiments you express and the way you seem to wish to be perceived I marvel that you don't get whiplash from the cognitive dissonance. You started this conversation with absolute spite and malice, why are you suprised where it ended up?

How much social intelligence do you think it shows to lecture (actually fucking lecture!) someone with terminal cancer about how to get better?

Should not paying the slightest attention to what they've said make them feel better? Should condescending to them make them feel better?

These, by the way, are rhetorical questions. I'm not looking for answers and certainly not for mere retorts. I would absolutely love it if you just went away and quietly thought about what sentiment you were trying to convey and whether you honestly think this sentiment could ever be conveyed by the approach you took. Would, for example, it ever be possible to show interest, concern or care for somebody's wellbeing while ignoring everything they've told you about that wellbeing?

Do with that what you will, it's off topic so I shan't say any more.

Fallible wrote:

jamest wrote:

Fallible wrote:

jamest wrote:
In spite of your obvious animosity towards me I of course wish you the best of health and a long life

Shut up, james.

yet the notion that the NHS is not going to exist nor that you will not have access to medical care after The Conservatives won on Thursday/Friday, is utterly ludicrous.

If we look past the atrocious grammar for a moment, we can see how you have manufactured two points for me which I did not express. You’re completely useless.

I mean, you might be forgetting this

I’m ill, not stupid. Believe me, I have forgotten nothing about having lived the last 9 years under a Tory government. It’s why I feel incredibly despairing of living that way for another five.

but we've already had 9 years of a Tory government in a financially crippled Britain/World.

Yes, dear. I am well aware. You don’t appear to be computing. It’s that experience which leaves me fearful of more time under the tories.

Don't worry about the politics, that's currently all shades of bollocks everywhere, whatever colour your flag is.

Oh do shut up, you tiresome, pompous arse.

Please keep positive regardless.

Shut the fuck up.

not liking this negativity on your part as it's not good for you.

As usual, you are completely clueless; I am very confident of my own abilities and of my brilliant doctor. Unfortunately I don’t have the ability to remove myself entirely from reality like you can, so that you can with a straight face first of all crow about your success and gloat directly into people’s faces, and then later attempt to claim that you are simply unselfishly acceding to what people want. The duller among us frequently mistake being realistic with being pessimistic. And they keep doing it. It’s been my experience over the years that those with the mantra ‘think positive’ are the ones most likely to fall apart the moment something doesn’t go their way.

Oh - and do not fool yourself that you are any less selfish than the rest of us. In fact you show signs of the opposite being true.

Just focus upon being well.

You just do not seem to be able to stop offering your useless advice to people who know ten times more about their situation than you do. You look like a dick when you do this.

If they don't shaft me here, I want to see you personally shafting me for many years to come, so to speak.

I couldn’t give two shits what you want. Again, you are completely deluded. Do you honestly think that what you claim to hope would be something I’m even passingly interested in? You shouldn’t, you’ve been corrected enough. If you do, you’re even more of a fucking idiot than I thought. My dogs are cleverer than you - they at least learn from repetition. Of course if you’re a troll, you are going to pretend you never heard so you can keep doing the thing you have been specifically instructed not to do.

Just get/think well, please.

I have an incurable disease. I’m not getting ‘well’, you fool. Keep your bulbous conk out of things which don’t concern you.

Everything concerns me,

Don’t be a tosser please. I realise that’s as worthwhile as telling water not to be wet, but someone needs to at least try to tell you that you look like a prick when you take a stranger’s illness and claim you have anything to do with it.

otherwise I wouldn't have bothered about anything over the last decade-or-two other than finding myself a quality full-length mirror.

Jesus, you are completely self-absorbed, aren’t you. Once again, why would you think for a second that it matters to me how you run your odd little existence, or how long for?

I've offered my best wishes to you and you've farted in my face. No worries. You still have my best wishes.

No, I’m afraid you’ve quite spectacularly done exactly the opposite, when you hoped I was feeling miserable and lost. Imagine that. You wished a cancer patient misery and a sense of loss, all because you’re too stupid to grasp the fact that people here and others who don’t share your political views are nevertheless proper human beings with lives, loved ones and feelings, and not just cardboard cut-outs for you to say words at. We have one over on you, in that we actually remember what leaks out of the corner of your gob from one minute to the next. This is why you can fuck right off. Your words are meaningless, because they have no integrity, and any circumstance you run across, you are only capable of seeing as useful fodder for constructing your pathetic alternate reality. So, you know. Fuck off.

Happy fuckin' Xmas dear.

Shut up, twat.

SafeAsMilk wrote:There's some good posts from Thommo, but unless you want to read jamest making an ass of himself once again, probably not worth bothering.

Still waiting for a response to this one:

SafeAsMilk wrote:

jamest wrote:
In my opinion, the other members of the union should now also have a vote/say on whether Scotland stays, given its persistent resistence to do so. And that's no more unreasonable than granting the whole of the USA a right to vote on whether the persistently griping state of X within the USA should remain within the USA, in my opinion.

So then it must also be your opinion that the EU should have a say as to whether you can leave or not, right?

His deafening silence says it all, really.

jamest wrote:

SafeAsMilk wrote:There's some good posts from Thommo, but unless you want to read jamest making an ass of himself once again, probably not worth bothering.

Still waiting for a response to this one:

SafeAsMilk wrote:

jamest wrote:
In my opinion, the other members of the union should now also have a vote/say on whether Scotland stays, given its persistent resistence to do so. And that's no more unreasonable than granting the whole of the USA a right to vote on whether the persistently griping state of X within the USA should remain within the USA, in my opinion.

So then it must also be your opinion that the EU should have a say as to whether you can leave or not, right?

His deafening silence says it all, really.

If we (The British) had been moaning for most of the time about being members of the EU and this wasn't about our first referendum on doing so, then absolutely yes.

Regardless, yes!

jamest wrote:My misery concerned the possible demise of democracy and the political credibility of Britain itself(!), which most here seemed to think was of much less importance than their own personal needs (mostly financial), as if The Conservative Party were some kind of new Nazi/facist party or something, poised suddenly to destroy all welfare and social systems and wealth. That apparently, is your collective misery, which is fucking pathetic - especially when weighted with a Britain (now) devoid of political credibility having (now, if you had all been successful) destroyed its democratic credentials.

You all sold Britain and democracy out, for your selves, so you should be ashamed of yourselves. You also lost, yet not one of you have shown any semblance of humility or apologised for your selfishness. You don't have to apologise to me, but you should apologise to the people en masse who obviously put democracy and Britain's political credibility above their own selfish agendas.

My misery concerned the possible demise of democracy and the political credibility of Britain itself(!), which most here seemed to think was of much less importance than their own personal needs (mostly financial), as if The Conservative Party were some kind of new Nazi/facist party or something, poised suddenly to destroy all welfare and social systems and wealth. That apparently, is your collective misery, which is fucking pathetic - especially when weighted with a Britain (now) devoid of political credibility having (now, if you had all been successful) destroyed its democratic credentials.

You all sold Britain and democracy out, for your selves, so you should be ashamed of yourselves. You also lost, yet not one of you have shown any semblance of humility or apologised for your selfishness. You don't have to apologise to me, but you should apologise to the people en masse who obviously put democracy and Britain's political credibility above their own selfish agendas.

Spearthrower wrote:Fuck off with your lowest-common denominator trolling Jamest.

jamest wrote:

Fallible wrote:

jamest wrote:

Fallible wrote:

Shut up, james.



If we look past the atrocious grammar for a moment, we can see how you have manufactured two points for me which I did not express. You’re completely useless.



I’m ill, not stupid. Believe me, I have forgotten nothing about having lived the last 9 years under a Tory government. It’s why I feel incredibly despairing of living that way for another five.



Yes, dear. I am well aware. You don’t appear to be computing. It’s that experience which leaves me fearful of more time under the tories.



Oh do shut up, you tiresome, pompous arse.



Shut the fuck up.



As usual, you are completely clueless; I am very confident of my own abilities and of my brilliant doctor. Unfortunately I don’t have the ability to remove myself entirely from reality like you can, so that you can with a straight face first of all crow about your success and gloat directly into people’s faces, and then later attempt to claim that you are simply unselfishly acceding to what people want. The duller among us frequently mistake being realistic with being pessimistic. And they keep doing it. It’s been my experience over the years that those with the mantra ‘think positive’ are the ones most likely to fall apart the moment something doesn’t go their way.

Oh - and do not fool yourself that you are any less selfish than the rest of us. In fact you show signs of the opposite being true.



You just do not seem to be able to stop offering your useless advice to people who know ten times more about their situation than you do. You look like a dick when you do this.



I couldn’t give two shits what you want. Again, you are completely deluded. Do you honestly think that what you claim to hope would be something I’m even passingly interested in? You shouldn’t, you’ve been corrected enough. If you do, you’re even more of a fucking idiot than I thought. My dogs are cleverer than you - they at least learn from repetition. Of course if you’re a troll, you are going to pretend you never heard so you can keep doing the thing you have been specifically instructed not to do.



I have an incurable disease. I’m not getting ‘well’, you fool. Keep your bulbous conk out of things which don’t concern you.

Everything concerns me,

Don’t be a tosser please. I realise that’s as worthwhile as telling water not to be wet, but someone needs to at least try to tell you that you look like a prick when you take a stranger’s illness and claim you have anything to do with it.

otherwise I wouldn't have bothered about anything over the last decade-or-two other than finding myself a quality full-length mirror.

Jesus, you are completely self-absorbed, aren’t you. Once again, why would you think for a second that it matters to me how you run your odd little existence, or how long for?

I've offered my best wishes to you and you've farted in my face. No worries. You still have my best wishes.

No, I’m afraid you’ve quite spectacularly done exactly the opposite, when you hoped I was feeling miserable and lost. Imagine that. You wished a cancer patient misery and a sense of loss, all because you’re too stupid to grasp the fact that people here and others who don’t share your political views are nevertheless proper human beings with lives, loved ones and feelings, and not just cardboard cut-outs for you to say words at. We have one over on you, in that we actually remember what leaks out of the corner of your gob from one minute to the next. This is why you can fuck right off. Your words are meaningless, because they have no integrity, and any circumstance you run across, you are only capable of seeing as useful fodder for constructing your pathetic alternate reality. So, you know. Fuck off.

Happy fuckin' Xmas dear.

Shut up, twat.

I respect the place where you're at, so to speak, full of fear/panic etc., so I'll let your hatred of me go without retort. In fact, if it helps, call me a cunt whenever you like. I certainly won't complain and I'm sure none of the other members here will either.

I'll leave you alone from now on as long you don't ask me any questions. Goodbye dear.

jamest wrote:
My misery concerned the possible demise of democracy and the political credibility of Britain itself(!), which most here seemed to think was of much less importance than their own personal needs (mostly financial), as if The Conservative Party were some kind of new Nazi/facist party or something, poised suddenly to destroy all welfare and social systems and wealth. That apparently, is your collective misery, which is fucking pathetic - especially when weighted with a Britain (now) devoid of political credibility having (now, if you had all been successful) destroyed its democratic credentials.

You all sold Britain and democracy out...

jamest wrote:
I respect the place where you're at, so to speak, full of fear/panic etc., so I'll let your hatred of me go without retort. In fact, if it helps, call me a cunt whenever you like. I certainly won't complain and I'm sure none of the other members here will either.

I'll leave you alone from now on as long you don't ask me any questions. Goodbye dear.

GrahamH wrote:As for your patronising and vacuous "think yourself better" remarks to Fallible I find those reprehensible and insincere. Show some respect.

jamest wrote:My misery concerned the possible demise of democracy and the political credibility of Britain itself(!),

which most here seemed to think was of much less importance than their own personal needs (mostly financial), as if The Conservative Party were some kind of new Nazi/facist party or something, poised suddenly to destroy all welfare and social systems and wealth. That apparently, is your collective misery, which is fucking pathetic - especially when weighted with a Britain (now) devoid of political credibility having (now, if you had all been successful) destroyed its democratic credentials.

You all sold Britain and democracy out, for your selves, so you should be ashamed of yourselves. You also lost, yet not one of you have shown any semblance of humility or apologised for your selfishness. You don't have to apologise to me, but you should apologise to the people en masse who obviously put democracy and Britain's political credibility above their own selfish agendas.

Don't be an arsehole. I wished her well and advised that positive thinking would have been an aid to that, which didn't amount to a lecture.

Should not paying the slightest attention to what they've said make them feel better? Should condescending to them make them feel better?

I have condescended nothing, other than political naivity and selfishness, and I'll be doing that to my deathbed regardless of the number of pricks I encounter.

These, by the way, are rhetorical questions. I'm not looking for answers and certainly not for mere retorts. I would absolutely love it if you just went away and quietly thought about what sentiment you were trying to convey and whether you honestly think this sentiment could ever be conveyed by the approach you took. Would, for example, it ever be possible to show interest, concern or care for somebody's wellbeing while ignoring everything they've told you about that wellbeing?

How arrogant of you to ask me to go away and contemplate everything, whilst you remain here with your stupid smug smile upon your face, thinking that you'd made a worthy point.

Do with that what you will, it's off topic so I shan't say any more.

You said too much, so keep your gob shut in the future and there'll be no need for me to put you straight.

UncertainSloth wrote:

jamest wrote:
I respect the place where you're at, so to speak, full of fear/panic etc., so I'll let your hatred of me go without retort. In fact, if it helps, call me a cunt whenever you like. I certainly won't complain and I'm sure none of the other members here will either.

I'll leave you alone from now on as long you don't ask me any questions. Goodbye dear.

shut your boring, trolling, rancid manc gob, you patronising, passive-aggressive, malicious little shitehawk

you show respect towards nothing

you have no idea how fallible actually feels (in fact, you couldn't be further from the truth)

your archaic demeanour towards women is reprehensible

keep building that little jamest bubble and live inside it so the rest of us don't have to put up with it...



there, that feels a little better....

Imp wrote:So how about that brexit

Boris Johnson has ordered officials to drop the term “Brexit” after Britain leaves the EU on January 31, HuffPost UK has learnt.
Downing Street will also refuse to refer to the UK-EU free trade agreement to be negotiated next year as a “deal”, arguing that the prime minister’s withdrawal agreement is the Brexit deal.
Johnson is so keen to show Brexit will be “done”, as he promised in the election, that No.10’s Brexit press team will be renamed after January 31, with “Europe and economy” one new name being floated by officials.
One government source said: “Once we’re out on January 31 that’s it.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/b ... spartanntp

newolder wrote:

Imp wrote:So how about that brexit

It's going to take something extraordinary to stop it now, it seems. I still haven't received an answer from Boris, my MP (Chris Green, tory) or any other leave representative as to any tangible benefit to the majority of the UK from this path though. I guess I'll just have to wait and see what the future brings.