Warren Dew wrote:

willhud9 wrote:Well of course suicide by gun decreased. The more relevant statistic is did suicide in general decrease or did the means of which attempts of suicide just get shifted around? Obviously guns are more fatal than other attempts, but not by much. Guns just happen to be impersonal. Having contemplated the several ways to quickly and painlessly kill myself a gun would be better off, but the three times I’ve seriously contemplated ending my life I had no access to a gun, but that made my thoughts detour to hanging (no good fixture to connect a rope to), asphyxiation (which I tried via plastic bag), and walking into traffic (which was the stupidest thing I’ve ever done as I put others at jeopardy). Suicide sucks. Battling those thoughts suck. There are days I would love nothing more than to have those feelings just end. Suicidal people will find ways to attempt suicide. I don’t quite get the focus on suicide via gun aside from the finality of it. But it’s a cold statistic which ignores the plight of suicide itself.

I hate when people use it as a device.

In Japan, hanging from trees is a popular method:

http://mentalfloss.com/article/73288/15 ... ide-forest

Clearly the solution to suicide in Japan is to cut down every tree there.

Warren Dew wrote:

willhud9 wrote:Well of course suicide by gun decreased. The more relevant statistic is did suicide in general decrease or did the means of which attempts of suicide just get shifted around? Obviously guns are more fatal than other attempts, but not by much. Guns just happen to be impersonal. Having contemplated the several ways to quickly and painlessly kill myself a gun would be better off, but the three times I’ve seriously contemplated ending my life I had no access to a gun, but that made my thoughts detour to hanging (no good fixture to connect a rope to), asphyxiation (which I tried via plastic bag), and walking into traffic (which was the stupidest thing I’ve ever done as I put others at jeopardy). Suicide sucks. Battling those thoughts suck. There are days I would love nothing more than to have those feelings just end. Suicidal people will find ways to attempt suicide. I don’t quite get the focus on suicide via gun aside from the finality of it. But it’s a cold statistic which ignores the plight of suicide itself.

I hate when people use it as a device.

In Japan, hanging from trees is a popular method:

http://mentalfloss.com/article/73288/15 ... ide-forest

Clearly the solution to suicide in Japan is to cut down every tree there.

Warren Dew wrote:

willhud9 wrote:Well of course suicide by gun decreased. The more relevant statistic is did suicide in general decrease or did the means of which attempts of suicide just get shifted around? Obviously guns are more fatal than other attempts, but not by much. Guns just happen to be impersonal. Having contemplated the several ways to quickly and painlessly kill myself a gun would be better off, but the three times I’ve seriously contemplated ending my life I had no access to a gun, but that made my thoughts detour to hanging (no good fixture to connect a rope to), asphyxiation (which I tried via plastic bag), and walking into traffic (which was the stupidest thing I’ve ever done as I put others at jeopardy). Suicide sucks. Battling those thoughts suck. There are days I would love nothing more than to have those feelings just end. Suicidal people will find ways to attempt suicide. I don’t quite get the focus on suicide via gun aside from the finality of it. But it’s a cold statistic which ignores the plight of suicide itself.

I hate when people use it as a device.

In Japan, hanging from trees is a popular method:

http://mentalfloss.com/article/73288/15 ... ide-forest

Clearly the solution to suicide in Japan is to cut down every tree there.

The_Piper wrote:You have to start somewhere, and this is a huge start. As has been pointed out, these kids will be voting soon. All of a sudden, taking NRA money is not necessarily good for a candidates election chances. I don't think these kids are going to let this fizzle out.

Animavore wrote:The March For Our Guns counter protest wasn't quite as impressive.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/25/59677331 ... t=20180325

I'm With Stupid wrote:

The_Metatron wrote:It’s cool that is the cover.

However, it isn’t nearly enough. I am certain that the requisite number of kids have not been gunned down to effect change here.

That's not generally the way these kind of things work though. People were arrested for not giving up their seat before Rosa Parks, but that's the one that inspired people to campaign. This could be similar. Hopefully.

laklak wrote:Blah blah blah. There will be a few cosmetic changes that won't actually accomplish anything. Nobody is going to confiscate guns, and there are already more than enough to go around.