Flygskam, or “flight-shaming” movement.

tuco · **#81** by **tuco** » Jul 28, 2019 5:28 pm

felltoearth wrote:
tuco wrote:Its trivial math. I did it in Google disk sheet which is gone. Shall I do it again?

I don't care about the math right now. I think I made that clear, trivial or not. Said another way, what is the math supposed to show?

The point that if everyone took such a round trip, we'd ran out of oil much sooner - since it consumes over 862 liters of gasoline (which is, for example, around my gasoline consumption for the whole year) - than if only a few take such a round trip.

btw the "if everyone" point is also trival ;) I mean, if I want to know whether my way of living is sustainable or not, what other matrix but "if everyone" can I use? Luckily, "if everyone" is a communist condition and it never translates itself into the real world.

Scot Dutchy · **#82** by **Scot Dutchy** » Jul 28, 2019 5:53 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Never fly anymore.Flying is a pain.

couldn't agree more, flying was a pleasure before 2001, and it has become torture since.

I flew in the 70's. It was great. No security and only a brief customs. Proper meals.

laklak · **#83** by **laklak** » Jul 28, 2019 6:05 pm

I remember flying Sabena first class from Lagos to Brussels back in the late 70s. They cooked your steaks to order and there was a cheese cart and selection of fine Cuban cigars after. A Cohiba Robusto and a Martel Cordon Bleu at 35,000 feet. The best, though, was Singapore First Class 747. There were only about 3 of us in the upper cabin, there were two stewardesses for each. They kept bringing the Dom around, I finally told them to leave the bottle and they did.

The good old days really were gooder.

Cito di Pense · **#84** by **Cito di Pense** » Jul 28, 2019 6:06 pm

laklak wrote:I remember flying Sabena first class from Lagos to Brussels back in the late 70s. They cooked your steaks to order and there was a cheese cart and selection of fine Cuban cigars after. A Cohiba Robusto and a Martel Cordon Bleu at 35,000 feet. The best, though, was Singapore First Class 747. There were only about 3 of us in the upper cabin, there were two stewardesses for each. They kept bringing the Dom around, I finally told them to leave the bottle and they did.

The good old days really were gooder.

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Never fly anymore.Flying is a pain.

couldn't agree more, flying was a pleasure before 2001, and it has become torture since.

I flew in the 70's. It was great. No security and only a brief customs. Proper meals.

Think I'm going down to the well tonight
Well now I'm going to drink till I get my fill
And I hope when I get old I don't sit around thinking about it
But I probably will
Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
Little of the glory of, well time slips away
And leaves you with nothing mister but
Boring stories of
Glory days well they'll pass you by
Glory days in the wink of a young girl's eye
Glory days, glory days

theropod · **#85** by **theropod** » Jul 28, 2019 6:09 pm

Cito di Pense · **#86** by **Cito di Pense** » Jul 28, 2019 6:14 pm

laklak wrote:They kept bringing the Dom around...

Dom... DeLuise?

Scot Dutchy · **#87** by **Scot Dutchy** » Jul 28, 2019 7:14 pm

I flew KLM business from Amsterdam to Mexico City on xmas eve in 2002. The upper deck 747 was only three of us. Two making out trying to get into the "Mile High Club". I and a lovely stewardess after many bottles of bubbly did the same. The was so much bubbly most of the cabin staff were pissed as there were hardly any passengers even in economy. We all managed to get a few hours kip. One of the most craziest flights ever.

tuco · **#88** by **tuco** » Jul 28, 2019 7:47 pm

See kids, now you gonna pay for sins of your fathers. However, unlike them, you don't think flying is cool and you know that getting laid in Tesla Roadster is much easier than in Dodge pickup truck. The glory days are yet to come for you.

laklak · **#89** by **laklak** » Jul 29, 2019 1:34 am

Maybe the convincing is easier in a Tesla, but the actual shagging is far easier in the bed of the pickup.

Scot Dutchy · **#90** by **Scot Dutchy** » Jul 29, 2019 4:08 am

A mate of mine had a Ford Zephyr estate and had a proper mattress in the back. Great times.

Hermit · **#91** by **Hermit** » Jul 29, 2019 6:06 am

My first car had a double bed, sink, wardrobe and curtains a few weeks after I bought it. The parents of students across the road from the school I went to, a school for girls run by some Catholic nuns, fucking hated me. One lot followed me in their car when I picked her daughter up to go to a dance.

Photo of me hamming it up as the proud owner of said vehicle on the night I took possession of it.

Keep It Real · **#92** by **Keep It Real** » Jul 29, 2019 3:32 pm

Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg has accepted a ride across the Atlantic by boat to attend two key climate conferences.

The teenager will make the journey aboard the Malizia II, a high-speed 18-metre (60ft) yacht built to race around the globe.

"We'll be sailing across the Atlantic Ocean from the UK to New York in mid August," she tweeted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49156223

tuco · **#93** by **tuco** » Jul 29, 2019 3:49 pm

Old ppl, full of cool stories. It's not about you no more, stfu! ;)

@Keep It Real: Yeah, take that Al Gore.

Keep It Real · **#94** by **Keep It Real** » Jul 29, 2019 5:17 pm

Our Greta = Champiooooon!

laklak · **#95** by **laklak** » Jul 29, 2019 7:35 pm

What year is the VW Hermit? I had a '67, white over red, with the split windshield and those angled vent windows.

And it is about us old farts, because we own all the shit now. Your turn will come, Young Skywalker, patience you must have.

Ironclad · **#96** by **Ironclad** » Jul 29, 2019 8:34 pm

That is a beautiful VeeDub, Hermit.

Hermit · **#97** by **Hermit** » Jul 30, 2019 1:16 am

laklak wrote:What year is the VW Hermit? I had a '67, white over red, with the split windshield and those angled vent windows.

And it is about us old farts, because we own all the shit now. Your turn will come, Young Skywalker, patience you must have.

'64. I bought it for $650, proceeds of working as a builder's labourer during the summer holidays and a few visits to the roulette tables at an illegal casino on the fringe of Kings cross.

I really hated the 6 Volt electrics. Headlights shone at about 3 candlepowers each. During the fitout I also installed a bullbar to which I attached one big 6 Volt halogen spotlight, which made a big difference on country roads, but you could not legally use in urban areas. The Kombi was the only car I ever gave a name: Cyclops. Later I replaced the headlights with aftermarket halogen units. They were wonderful, projecting light further than ten metres.

Some people objected to the lack of power in 1200 cc engines, but I was OK with it, seeing I could still put it into a four-wheel drift around the Bronte and Tamarama Beach Marine Drives. I also liked the all-synchro four on the floor when most cars in Australia had either three on the tree (no synchro in first. You had to double-clutch to get down there) or three speed automatics.

The thing really was a chick magnet, but in those days any set of wheels owned by schoolboys probably would have been.

Good times.

laklak · **#98** by **laklak** » Jul 30, 2019 2:39 am

MIne was also the 1200 but had 12v electrics. I had a bunch of VWs. The bus, 2 Karmann Ghias (one convertable), a Beetle, a Squareback, and an Igala, which was a sort of squareback they sold in West Africa. I had two diesel Rabbits (Golf to you guys). Love the air cooled boxer, I got pretty good with them. Both Ghias had the 1600 single port. I put new jugs on the convertable and took it to 1800, a "Bug Spray" carb (4-barrel Holley), fancy exhaust, and wider tires. She ate those shitty Porsche 914s for breakfast. A lovely car to drive but watch the oversteer. My ex-wife drove it through the window of an antique shop and that was that.

Alan C · **#99** by **Alan C** » Jul 30, 2019 2:45 am

Black Friday sale was it?

laklak · **#100** by **laklak** » Jul 30, 2019 2:57 am

Probably oxycodone.

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