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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#101  Postby Made of Stars » Nov 07, 2014 8:19 pm

Interesting articles on Virgin's ambitions beyond space tourism:
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/virgin-gal ... d-science/
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#102  Postby Scot Dutchy » Nov 08, 2014 9:02 am

Made of Stars wrote:Interesting articles on Virgin's ambitions beyond space tourism:
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/virgin-gal ... d-science/


Plenty of "mights" in that article. 500 pounds will not do much as a pay load.

I wonder who is trying to compliment whom; Virgin or NASA?
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#103  Postby Weaver » Nov 08, 2014 9:04 am

500 pounds can do impressive things. Look up "Miniaturized Satellite."
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#104  Postby Made of Stars » Nov 08, 2014 9:32 am

Microsatellite launch vehicle
A number of commercial and military-contractor companies are currently developing microsatellite launch vehicles to perform the increasingly-targeted launch requirements of microsatellites. While microsatellites have been carried to space for many years as secondary payloads aboard larger launchers, the secondary payload paradigm does not provide the specificity required for many increasingly sophisticated small satellites which have unique orbital and launch-timing requirements.[4]

In July 2012, Virgin Galactic announced LauncherOne, an orbital launch vehicle designed to launch "smallsat" primary payloads of 100 kilograms (220 lb) into low-Earth orbit, with launches projected to begin in 2016. Several commercial customers have already contracted for launches, including GeoOptics, Skybox Imaging, Spaceflight Services, and Planetary Resources. Both Surrey Satellite Technology and Sierra Nevada Space Systems are developing satellite buses "optimized to the design of LauncherOne."[5] Virgin Galactic has been working on the LauncherOne concept since late 2008.[6]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsat ... paceflight)#Microsatellite
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#105  Postby VK-machine » Nov 09, 2014 11:22 am

Made of Stars wrote:Interesting articles on Virgin's ambitions beyond space tourism:
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/virgin-gal ... d-science/

Ugh. The hype.
When some company develops a new sports car (killing 4 people in the process) and announces that: One day it'll get around to building middle class cars, trucks, buses .They will totally revolutionize the world. And it's the sports car that makes all that possible.
Are you going to believe that?
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#106  Postby VK-machine » Nov 09, 2014 11:25 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Made of Stars wrote:Interesting articles on Virgin's ambitions beyond space tourism:
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/virgin-gal ... d-science/


Plenty of "mights" in that article. 500 pounds will not do much as a pay load.

I wonder who is trying to compliment whom; Virgin or NASA?


The bit about air-launching small sats is perfectly feasible. It's been done for a quarter century with the Pegasus. Of course, VG's system will be much cheaper as these system's invariably are, before being built.
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#107  Postby Made of Stars » Nov 09, 2014 12:16 pm

VK-machine wrote:
Made of Stars wrote:Interesting articles on Virgin's ambitions beyond space tourism:
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/virgin-gal ... d-science/

Ugh. The hype.
When some company develops a new sports car (killing 4 people in the process) and announces that: One day it'll get around to building middle class cars, trucks, buses .They will totally revolutionize the world. And it's the sports car that makes all that possible.
Are you going to believe that?

Ever heard of Tesla?
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#108  Postby hackenslash » Nov 09, 2014 12:58 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Branson is only interested in one thing; money. How it is earned I don't think really bothers him.


What an utterly fucking ridiculous thing to say, and trivial to debunk with easily checkable facts. :naughty:
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#109  Postby Weaver » Nov 09, 2014 4:12 pm

hackenslash wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Branson is only interested in one thing; money. How it is earned I don't think really bothers him.


What an utterly fucking ridiculous thing to say, and trivial to debunk with easily checkable facts. :naughty:

Par for the course. Scot Dutchy's posting history shows he has little need for facts, he knows what he knows and that's enough.
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#110  Postby Scot Dutchy » Nov 09, 2014 6:21 pm

Weaver wrote:
hackenslash wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Branson is only interested in one thing; money. How it is earned I don't think really bothers him.


What an utterly fucking ridiculous thing to say, and trivial to debunk with easily checkable facts. :naughty:

Par for the course. Scot Dutchy's posting history shows he has little need for facts, he knows what he knows and that's enough.


Is Branson a businessman or not? Facts show them.

End of argument. Get down of your high horses.
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#111  Postby Made of Stars » Nov 09, 2014 8:22 pm

What does it matter if he's a businessman? Most people can hold more than one agenda in their head at a time. Most people.
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#112  Postby hackenslash » Nov 09, 2014 9:01 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:Is Branson a businessman or not?


What does that have to do with it?

Facts show them.


You might want to investigate Branson's bid to run the UK national lottery. ;)

End of argument.


You didn't have an argument, only an easily checkable counterfactual assertion.

Get down of your high horses.


Good luck with that.
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#113  Postby Weaver » Nov 09, 2014 9:06 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Weaver wrote:
hackenslash wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Branson is only interested in one thing; money. How it is earned I don't think really bothers him.


What an utterly fucking ridiculous thing to say, and trivial to debunk with easily checkable facts. :naughty:

Par for the course. Scot Dutchy's posting history shows he has little need for facts, he knows what he knows and that's enough.


Is Branson a businessman or not? Facts show them.

End of argument. Get down of your high horses.

No, that is not the end of the argument - nor does it even address many of the lame arguments you made. Sure, Branson is a businessman - but so is Elon Musk, the head of SpaceX, which has been making great strides in rocket design while simultaneously cutting costs from those of prior launch systems. Branson is a businessman, but that has absolutely nothing to do with your (bullshit) argument that spaceflight and space exploration is a drain on the economy and that money would be better off spent at the bottom of the gravity well. Branson is a businessman, but that doesn't address your other (bullshit) argument that rockets are a dead-end pathway, and that therefore Branson should explore other options, except that the craft suffered a terminal accident, therefore Branson should stick to rockets.

Branson being a businessman wasn't an argument, it was just another way for you to avoid argument while simultaneously ignoring all those pesky facts which disproved all the weak arguments you did make.
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#114  Postby surreptitious57 » Nov 09, 2014 9:56 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Is Branson a businessman or not? Facts show them

End of argument. Get down of your high horses

Richard Branson has been a businessman since 1973 when he formed Virgin Records his first company. And the first record on the label was Tubular Bells which to date has sold seventeen million units. These are the facts you required but did not think could be produced in your rush to declare yourself the winner of the argument. Which was not actually one at all but a blind assertion. An actual argument would have to have a proposition which would be either logically sound or empirically testable
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Re: 'In-flight anomaly' on Virgin SpaceShipTwo

#115  Postby DougC » Nov 13, 2014 5:20 pm

B.B.C. - Virgin Galactic pilot 'thrown free' from spacecraft
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