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Re: Law societies consider rejecting grads of anti-gay school

#341  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Jun 06, 2015 10:07 pm

What were the “statements of bigotry and intolerance"?
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Re: Law societies consider rejecting grads of anti-gay school

#342  Postby Shrunk » Jun 06, 2015 11:26 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:What were the “statements of bigotry and intolerance"?


You'll have to ask him. Or you can watch the video or read the transcript of the LSUC convocation:

http://www.lsuc.on.ca/twu/
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#343  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Jun 07, 2015 12:51 am

Pretty shit reporting if they don't even identify the subject of the controversy. How is the reader to decide for themselves if the statements were or were not statements of bigotry and intolerance?

Dishonest reporting, or incompetent reporting??
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#344  Postby Shrunk » Jun 07, 2015 1:39 am

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:Pretty shit reporting if they don't even identify the subject of the controversy. How is the reader to decide for themselves if the statements were or were not statements of bigotry and intolerance?

Dishonest reporting, or incompetent reporting??


The important point is that the judges do not seem very sympathetic to TWU's claim that it is they who are the victims of intolerance here. That could be an indication of how they will rule.
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#345  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Jun 07, 2015 2:05 am

Well duh, of course the Judges don't think badly of themselves.

The important question is, are the Judges bigoted and intolerant? Or does that not matter, the outcome is the only concern?
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#346  Postby Shrunk » Jun 07, 2015 11:35 am

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:Well duh, of course the Judges don't think badly of themselves.

The important question is, are the Judges bigoted and intolerant? Or does that not matter, the outcome is the only concern?


"The judges"? Maybe you should get a clue about the topic of this thread before you start "contributing" to it.
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#347  Postby Onyx8 » Jun 07, 2015 3:21 pm

And break an almost perfect record?
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#348  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Jun 07, 2015 4:01 pm

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"The judges"? Maybe you should get a clue about the topic of this thread before you start "contributing" to it.


So when you posted the article with the claim the Judges were giving “statements of bigotry and intolerance”, that was not on topic?

Did you post in the wrong thread?
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#349  Postby Shrunk » Jun 07, 2015 4:05 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:
Shrunk wrote:
"The judges"? Maybe you should get a clue about the topic of this thread before you start "contributing" to it.


So when you posted the article with the claim the Judges were giving “statements of bigotry and intolerance”, that was not on topic?


Huh? When did I do that? Are you perhaps thinking of some other post, by some other person?
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#350  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Jun 07, 2015 4:19 pm

Shrunk wrote:One of TWU's lawyers didn't get a very sympathetic reception when he complained the school was itself the victim of bigotry:

In oral arguments Thursday, TWU lawyer Robert Staley told the three-judge panel that a transcript of the debate on the issue by LSUC benchers — they denied accreditation in a 28-21 vote — revealed “statements of bigotry and intolerance.”


Gaslighting doesn't become you Shrunk.
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#351  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Jun 07, 2015 4:32 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:
Shrunk wrote:One of TWU's lawyers didn't get a very sympathetic reception when he complained the school was itself the victim of bigotry:

In oral arguments Thursday, TWU lawyer Robert Staley told the three-judge panel that a transcript of the debate on the issue by LSUC benchers — they denied accreditation in a 28-21 vote — revealed “statements of bigotry and intolerance.”


Gaslighting doesn't become you Shrunk.

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#352  Postby Shrunk » Jun 07, 2015 5:15 pm

Jerome Da Gnome wrote:
Shrunk wrote:One of TWU's lawyers didn't get a very sympathetic reception when he complained the school was itself the victim of bigotry:

In oral arguments Thursday, TWU lawyer Robert Staley told the three-judge panel that a transcript of the debate on the issue by LSUC benchers — they denied accreditation in a 28-21 vote — revealed “statements of bigotry and intolerance.”


Gaslighting doesn't become you Shrunk.


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#353  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Jun 07, 2015 5:18 pm

Maybe read the article in its whole Jerome. The LSUC are not the judges in any way...they are the Law Society of Upper Canada which was the group that said it wouldn't accredit the school.
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#354  Postby Shrunk » Jun 07, 2015 5:25 pm

DarthHelmet86 wrote:Maybe read the article in its whole Jerome. The LSUC are not the judges in any way...they are the Law Society of Upper Canada which was the group that said it wouldn't accredit the school.


He doesn't have to read the whole article. Just the part I quoted, which says in part:

TWU lawyer Robert Staley told the three-judge panel that a transcript of the debate on the issue by LSUC benchers — they denied accreditation in a 28-21 vote — revealed “statements of bigotry and intolerance.”


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#355  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Jun 07, 2015 5:29 pm

You could read that to make it the LSUC benchers means the judges on the bench. Not easily but it could be read that way.
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#356  Postby Shrunk » Jun 07, 2015 5:39 pm

DarthHelmet86 wrote:You could read that to make it the LSUC benchers means the judges on the bench. Not easily but it could be read that way.


Yes. And, while on the bench, the three of them voted 28-21 against accrediting the school. I wonder how Jerome worked out the math on that one.
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#357  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Jun 07, 2015 10:38 pm

Predictable how uncomfortable truths begin the personal attacks, with a bonus attempt to derail the conversation.

If you think it is okay for agencies to be bigoted against the religious, just say so.
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#358  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Jun 07, 2015 10:42 pm

What truth? You don't know what the lawyer meant or what exact things he thought were bigoted or intolerant. And you were wrong about who had been claimed to have said anything that might have been bigoted or intolerant.

Since you were wrong just say so.
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#359  Postby Jerome Da Gnome » Jun 07, 2015 10:54 pm

The truth is in the circumstance, this conversation did not start with the most recent article linked.

If you think it is okay for agencies to be bigoted against the religious, just say so.
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#360  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Jun 07, 2015 10:56 pm

Prove any agency has been bigoted against the religious. Better do a better job than that lawyer did.
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