President Trump Watch.

Election is over

For discussion of politics, and what's going on in the world today.

Moderators: kiore, Blip, The_Metatron

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15261  Postby aban57 » Dec 28, 2018 4:45 pm

The_Piper wrote:
aban57 wrote:Paying for it ?

I don't read enough NY times to justify paying $1 a week for the first year and $3.75 a week after.


Sorry I was kidding. Don't mind me.
aban57
 
Name: Cindy
Posts: 7501
Age: 44
Female

Country: France
Belgium (be)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15262  Postby felltoearth » Dec 28, 2018 4:46 pm

The_Piper wrote:
aban57 wrote:Paying for it ?

I don't read enough NY times to justify paying $1 a week for the first year and $3.75 a week after.

If you have a library card it’s possible you can read for free. It’s free here.
"Walla Walla Bonga!" — Witticism
User avatar
felltoearth
 
Posts: 14762
Age: 56

Canada (ca)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15263  Postby Mike_L » Dec 28, 2018 4:47 pm

The_Piper wrote:
Mike_Lives! :mrgreen:

:lol: Clever extension of the L. :thumbup: :smile:

Unfortunately that article is behind a paywall.

No matter. Quite a few others...

* Sheldon Adelson: the casino mogul driving Trump's Middle East policy

* Last minute, Adelson flushes Trump campaign with cash

* Trump's Patron-in-Chief: Casino Magnate Sheldon Adelson
User avatar
Mike_L
Banned User
 
Posts: 14455
Male

Country: South Africa
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15264  Postby ElDiablo » Dec 28, 2018 4:54 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:We will see or do you have privileged information?

No, I'm just an regular nobody. Unfortunately, I know too many people who think he is being unjustly persecuted. They see him as a good leader. This has caused me to think it doesn't matter what Mueller finds, people will think its bullshit and the Republicans will fight to minimize it's consequences.
God is silly putty.
User avatar
ElDiablo
 
Posts: 3128

Country: USA
United States (us)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15265  Postby The_Piper » Dec 28, 2018 4:58 pm

felltoearth wrote:
The_Piper wrote:
aban57 wrote:Paying for it ?

I don't read enough NY times to justify paying $1 a week for the first year and $3.75 a week after.

If you have a library card it’s possible you can read for free. It’s free here.

I do have a library card with the Maine state library. I'll look into that.
aban57 wrote:
The_Piper wrote:
aban57 wrote:Paying for it ?

I don't read enough NY times to justify paying $1 a week for the first year and $3.75 a week after.


Sorry I was kidding. Don't mind me.

:lol: :cheers:
"There are two ways to view the stars; as they really are, and as we might wish them to be." - Carl Sagan
"If an argument lasts more than five minutes, both parties are wrong" unknown
Self Taken Pictures of Wildlife
User avatar
The_Piper
 
Name: Fletch F. Fletch
Posts: 30416
Age: 49
Male

Country: Chainsaw Country
United States (us)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15266  Postby The_Piper » Dec 28, 2018 5:03 pm

Mike_L wrote:
The_Piper wrote:
Mike_Lives! :mrgreen:

:lol: Clever extension of the L. :thumbup: :smile:

:lol:
Thanks.
"There are two ways to view the stars; as they really are, and as we might wish them to be." - Carl Sagan
"If an argument lasts more than five minutes, both parties are wrong" unknown
Self Taken Pictures of Wildlife
User avatar
The_Piper
 
Name: Fletch F. Fletch
Posts: 30416
Age: 49
Male

Country: Chainsaw Country
United States (us)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15267  Postby Tero » Dec 28, 2018 7:59 pm

Trumpists already think the deep state is a conspiracy. Let us use it: dump him.
How American politics goes
1 Republicans cut tax, let everything run down to barely working...8 years
2 Democrats fix public spending to normal...8 years
Rinse, repeat.
User avatar
Tero
 
Posts: 1426

Country: USA
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15268  Postby Seabass » Dec 29, 2018 2:57 am

Make America polluted again!

Long NYT article about Trump deregulation:

In just two years, President Trump has unleashed a regulatory rollback, lobbied for and cheered on by industry, with little parallel in the past half-century. Mr. Trump enthusiastically promotes the changes as creating jobs, freeing business from the shackles of government and helping the economy grow.

The trade-offs, while often out of public view, are real — frighteningly so, for some people — imperiling progress in cleaning up the air we breathe and the water we drink, and in some cases upending the very relationship with the environment around us.

Since Mr. Trump took office, his approach on the environment has been to neutralize the most rigorous Obama-era restrictions, nearly 80 of which have been blocked, delayed or targeted for repeal, according to an analysis of data by The New York Times.

With this running start, Mr. Trump is already on track to leave an indelible mark on the American landscape, even with a decline in some major pollutants from the ever-shrinking coal industry. While Washington has been consumed by scandals surrounding the president’s top officials on environmental policy — both the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency and the Interior secretary have been driven from his cabinet — Mr. Trump’s vision is taking root in places as diverse as rural California, urban Texas, West Virginian coal country and North Dakota’s energy corridor.

While the Obama administration sought to tackle pollution problems in all four states and nationally, Mr. Trump’s regulatory ambitions extend beyond Republican distaste for what they considered unilateral overreach by his Democratic predecessor; pursuing them in full force, Mr. Trump would shift the debate about the environment sharply in the direction of industry interests, further unraveling what had been, before the Obama administration, a loose bipartisan consensus dating in part to the Nixon administration.



Had Donald J. Trump not won the presidency in 2016, millions of pounds of chlorpyrifos most likely would not have been applied to American crops over the past 21 months. It would not have sickened substantial numbers of farm workers, or risked what the Environmental Protection Agency’s own studies suggest could be continued long-term health problems for others exposed to the chemical at low levels.

Widespread concerns about chlorpyrifos led to its removal for nearly all residential uses in 2000. Environmental groups kept pushing, and two filed a petition with the E.P.A. in 2007 to ban it entirely on food crops. The E.P.A. eventually agreed in 2015, released its revised human health risk assessment in November 2016, and was ordered by a court to “take final action” by the end of March 2017.

Days after the assessment was released, Mr. Trump won the election. DowDuPont, the leading maker of the pesticide, donated $1 million to his inauguration. One of the early acts of the man Mr. Trump appointed to head the E.P.A., Scott Pruitt, was to quash the chlorpyrifos ban on March 29, 2017.

Since taking office, Mr. Trump has consistently sided with powerful economic constituencies in setting policy toward the air we breathe, the water we drink and the presence of chemicals in our communities.

In the process, he has frequently rejected or given short shrift to science, an instinct that has played out most visibly in his disdain for efforts to curb global warming but has also permeated federal policy in other ways. Mr. Trump has expressed skepticism about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. His administration supported rolling back safeguards for workers exposed to some toxic substances. And in rolling back nearly 80 environmental regulations, he has regularly played down findings that bolstered the need for the rules in the first place.

The administration’s choice not to curb the use of chlorpyrifos is a case study in how ideological and special-interest considerations outweighed decades of evidence about the potential harm associated with its use.

full article:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/12/26/us/politics/donald-trump-environmental-regulation.html
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." —Voltaire

"They want to take away your hamburgers. This is what Stalin dreamt about but never achieved." —Sebastian Gorka
User avatar
Seabass
 
Name: Gazpacho Police
Posts: 4159

Country: Covidiocracy
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15269  Postby Alan C » Dec 29, 2018 8:19 am

Fucking fuckwitted, venal, self-serving, willfully-ignorant, corrupt, shit-brained, toxic, verminous, imbecilic, cancerous colon wart!
and the short-sighted, greedy, conniving, biocidal fuckmuppets running the corporations paying and encouraging him to fuck up the US environment and possibly the world's.
Lose it - it means go crazy, nuts, insane, bonzo, no longer in possession of one's faculties, three fries short of a happy meal, WACKO!! - Jack O'Neill
User avatar
Alan C
 
Posts: 3091
Age: 47
Male

New Zealand (nz)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15270  Postby Calilasseia » Dec 29, 2018 12:18 pm

Alan C wrote:Fucking fuckwitted, venal, self-serving, willfully-ignorant, corrupt, shit-brained, toxic, verminous, imbecilic, cancerous colon wart!
and the short-sighted, greedy, conniving, biocidal fuckmuppets running the corporations paying and encouraging him to fuck up the US environment and possibly the world's.


And unfortunately, many of the people who will be shat upon the most by this blatant corporate cronyism (aided and abetted by Trump's willingness to align himself with every shitty idea and practice going, so long as it keeps the kickbacks flowing into his bank account), are also vocal supporters of the same corrupt orange manchild. In no small part because they've swallowed the lies that they've been fed, lies peddled by the multi-billion-dollar Koch Brothers propaganda machine, which has taught them to respond in classic Pavlovian fashion to ideological dog whistles, instead of paying attention to the real mechanisms of need versus greed at work. Indeed, thanks to the venality of the socipoathic über-rich, the whole "American Dream" schtick has been revealed to be a giant scam, a means of keeping the plebs and serfs from manning the barricades and overthrowing the con men. Which worked because the likes of the Koch Brothers have been lethally successful in persuading large numbers of Americans at the shitty end of the economic stick, to continue masturbating over the "Private Corporations Equals Freedom" bullshit they've had shovelled onto them, mushroom cultivation style.

Which is why the race is now on, by the pedlars of these lies, to garner for themselves as much plunder and plenary powers as they can, in the hope that they make their position unassailable before the American public wakes up to the manner in which it's been shafted by the corporate kleptocrats. The same corporate kleptocrats know that once that awakening takes place, the revenge exacted by the American public will not be pretty to watch, and consequently, the smart ones are not only preparing fortresses within which to ride out the storm, but taking time out to pervert the arena of jurisprudence, in order to have in place the tools needed to deal in a suitably brutal and homicidal manner with the disaffected outside those fortresses. It's simply a matter of who gets to the winning line first - the kleptocrats in their fortresses, or the victims thereof. It'll serve the kleptocrats right if they lose that race, and possibly the best service we can give to the world right now, is doing everything we can to ensure that they do lose it.
Signature temporarily on hold until I can find a reliable image host ...
User avatar
Calilasseia
RS Donator
 
Posts: 22636
Age: 62
Male

Country: England
United Kingdom (uk)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15271  Postby Tero » Dec 29, 2018 3:37 pm

How American politics goes
1 Republicans cut tax, let everything run down to barely working...8 years
2 Democrats fix public spending to normal...8 years
Rinse, repeat.
User avatar
Tero
 
Posts: 1426

Country: USA
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15272  Postby The_Piper » Dec 30, 2018 3:46 am

Some Donald Trump's latest tweets. I know, Trump tweets some cold-blooded shit, details at 11.
It's dumb enough that he blames democrats for the 2 migrant children who died in Border Patrol custody, but he neither says nor implies any sorrow for the fact. Maybe I missed it in a prior tweet, I tried to scan but couldn't see any, just more hateful, insecure stuff. They're making the trek to enter legally, by and large.

Donald F.Trump
‏[url=https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1079082188665171971[/url]
9h9 hours ago

Any deaths of children or others at the Border are strictly the fault of the Democrats and their pathetic immigration policies that allow people to make the long trek thinking they can enter our country illegally. They can’t. If we had a Wall, they wouldn’t even try! The two.....
..children in question were very sick before they were given over to Border Patrol. The father of the young girl said it was not their fault, he hadn’t given her water in days. Border Patrol needs the Wall and it will all end. They are working so hard & getting so little credit!


So there's a disruputable source that his supporters can cry about. The president himself.
"There are two ways to view the stars; as they really are, and as we might wish them to be." - Carl Sagan
"If an argument lasts more than five minutes, both parties are wrong" unknown
Self Taken Pictures of Wildlife
User avatar
The_Piper
 
Name: Fletch F. Fletch
Posts: 30416
Age: 49
Male

Country: Chainsaw Country
United States (us)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15273  Postby Calilasseia » Dec 30, 2018 4:22 am

He's basically a spoilt brat engaging in toddler stomping over his wank-fantasy wall. His wank-fantasy wall won't stop people crossing the border, even if they're stuck with ground-based methods of travel. We found that out in Berlin. As for anyone with access to an aircraft, his wank-fantasy wall is about as much use at stopping an aircraft, as a fishnet condom is at stopping sperm.

Plus, this fucktard would post on Twitter that it was the Democrats' fault, even if he was filmed live by a dozen international news crews strangling migrant kids with his own bare hands. He's a compulsive pathological liar.
Signature temporarily on hold until I can find a reliable image host ...
User avatar
Calilasseia
RS Donator
 
Posts: 22636
Age: 62
Male

Country: England
United Kingdom (uk)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15274  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Dec 30, 2018 4:26 am

His hands are too tiny to strangle toddlers.
what a terrible image
User avatar
Rachel Bronwyn
 
Name: speaking moistly
Posts: 13595
Age: 35
Female

Canada (ca)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15275  Postby The_Piper » Dec 30, 2018 4:49 am

I said to myself that his shutting down the government for a prolonged bout over his wank-fantasy wall would be the final straw for Republicans to turn their backs, then I woke up. They don't have backs, it's all jelly.
"There are two ways to view the stars; as they really are, and as we might wish them to be." - Carl Sagan
"If an argument lasts more than five minutes, both parties are wrong" unknown
Self Taken Pictures of Wildlife
User avatar
The_Piper
 
Name: Fletch F. Fletch
Posts: 30416
Age: 49
Male

Country: Chainsaw Country
United States (us)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15276  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Dec 30, 2018 4:55 am

They're thrilled about it!
what a terrible image
User avatar
Rachel Bronwyn
 
Name: speaking moistly
Posts: 13595
Age: 35
Female

Canada (ca)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15277  Postby SafeAsMilk » Dec 30, 2018 5:15 am

Are they?
"They call it the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it." -- George Carlin
User avatar
SafeAsMilk
 
Name: Makes Fails
Posts: 14774
Age: 44
Male

United States (us)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15278  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Dec 30, 2018 5:16 am

All the responses I've heard thus far have been. What the dominant response will be on the news, we'll see...
what a terrible image
User avatar
Rachel Bronwyn
 
Name: speaking moistly
Posts: 13595
Age: 35
Female

Canada (ca)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15279  Postby Scot Dutchy » Dec 30, 2018 8:19 am

Calilasseia wrote:He's basically a spoilt brat engaging in toddler stomping over his wank-fantasy wall. His wank-fantasy wall won't stop people crossing the border, even if they're stuck with ground-based methods of travel. We found that out in Berlin. As for anyone with access to an aircraft, his wank-fantasy wall is about as much use at stopping an aircraft, as a fishnet condom is at stopping sperm.

Plus, this fucktard would post on Twitter that it was the Democrats' fault, even if he was filmed live by a dozen international news crews strangling migrant kids with his own bare hands. He's a compulsive pathological liar.


For the next two years he will be saying everything is the Dems fault especially when they take over the HoR. He is using the old propaganda technique of constantly repeating lies until they appear to be true. His idiot supporters will easily accept and repeat it.
Myths in islam Women and islam Musilm opinion polls


"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.” — Napoleon Bonaparte
User avatar
Scot Dutchy
THREAD STARTER
 
Posts: 43119
Age: 75
Male

Country: Nederland
European Union (eur)
Print view this post

Re: President Trump Watch.

#15280  Postby KeenIdiot » Dec 30, 2018 9:59 am

Rachel Bronwyn wrote:All the responses I've heard thus far have been. What the dominant response will be on the news, we'll see...

These people actively hate government.
Of course they're happy to hear it's shut down.
KeenIdiot
 
Name: Mike
Posts: 924
Age: 35
Male

Country: USA
United States (us)
Print view this post

PreviousNext

Return to News, Politics & Current Affairs

Who is online

Users viewing this topic: No registered users and 7 guests