President Trump Watch.

Seabass · **#16561** by **Seabass** » May 16, 2019 12:28 am

An Oral History of Trump’s Bigotry
His racism and intolerance have always been in evidence; only slowly did he begin to understand how to use them to his advantage.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/

The first quotation from Donald Trump ever to appear in The New York Times came on October 16, 1973. Trump was responding to charges filed by the Justice Department alleging racial bias at his family’s real-estate company. “They are absolutely ridiculous,” Trump said of the charges. “We have never discriminated, and we never would.”

In the years since then, Trump has assembled a long record of comment on issues involving African Americans as well as Mexicans, Hispanics more broadly, Native Americans, Muslims, Jews, immigrants, women, and people with disabilities. His statements have been reflected in his behavior—from public acts (placing ads calling for the execution of five young black and Latino men accused of rape, who were later shown to be innocent) to private preferences (“When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” a former employee of Trump’s Castle, in Atlantic City, New Jersey, told a writer for The New Yorker). Trump emerged as a political force owing to his full-throated embrace of “birtherism,” the false charge that the nation’s first black president, Barack Obama, was not born in the United States. His presidential campaign was fueled by nativist sentiment directed at nonwhite immigrants, and he proposed barring Muslims from entering the country. In 2016, Trump described himself to The Washington Post as “the least racist person that you’ve ever encountered.”

Instances of bigotry involving Donald Trump span more than four decades. The Atlantic interviewed a range of people with knowledge of several of those episodes. Their recollections have been edited for concision and clarity.

more: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/

chango369 · **#16562** by **chango369** » May 16, 2019 1:41 am

Seabass · **#16563** by **Seabass** » May 16, 2019 1:55 am

chango369 wrote:

Hotlinking twitter images doesn't work. Stick 'em on imgur or imgbb or something.

Thommo · **#16564** by **Thommo** » May 16, 2019 2:08 am

Seabass wrote:
An Oral History of Trump’s Bigotry
His racism and intolerance have always been in evidence; only slowly did he begin to understand how to use them to his advantage.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/

That is a severely depressing read.

Seabass · **#16565** by **Seabass** » May 16, 2019 2:17 am

Thommo wrote:
Seabass wrote:
An Oral History of Trump’s Bigotry
His racism and intolerance have always been in evidence; only slowly did he begin to understand how to use them to his advantage.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/

That is a severely depressing read.

What's really depressing is that this motherfucker has 90% support among Republican voters.

Thommo · **#16566** by **Thommo** » May 16, 2019 2:24 am

I can't argue with that.

DougC · **#16567** by **DougC** » May 16, 2019 3:44 am

Serious question, badly worded.

What's the number, if any, of people who have actually fled to Canada?
I seem to recall a number of folk threatening to do that when Trump got in.

Spearthrower · **#16568** by **Spearthrower** » May 16, 2019 4:13 am

I think most serious discussions into that have clarified the distinction between the desire to do so and the actual intention of doing so.

Figures suggest that about 2000 more Americans than usual moved to Canada in 2017-18

https://globalnews.ca/news/4396938/move ... ald-trump/

While recent polls show record numbers of Americans wanting to leave the USA permanently.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/245789/rec ... leave.aspx

Scot Dutchy · **#16569** by **Scot Dutchy** » May 16, 2019 6:19 am

Americans have few options of moving unless they make drastic moves. Canada is obvious but anywhere else?

Cito di Pense · **#16570** by **Cito di Pense** » May 16, 2019 8:20 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:Americans have few options of moving unless they make drastic moves. Canada is obvious but anywhere else?

How is it obvious? Proximity? Language? Do tell. What do you think is involved in taking up residence in another country? Perhaps you've experienced this. Come on, Scot: How did you obtain the privilege of residing in the Netherlands?

Scot Dutchy · **#16571** by **Scot Dutchy** » May 16, 2019 9:44 am

I just wanted to leave the UK and as a 17 year old any European country would have done.
Obtaining privileges? Simple answer; married a Dutch girl. In those days the UK was a third country. Marrying bypassed a shit load of red tape.
Canada is an obvious because of language, culture and proximity although climate might be a problem.

Svartalf · **#16572** by **Svartalf** » May 16, 2019 9:51 am

Climate is most definitely a problem, it's the one major reason why I've not gone to spend my retirement back to the land of my birth.

Spearthrower · **#16573** by **Spearthrower** » May 16, 2019 10:20 am

Svartalf wrote:Climate is most definitely a problem, it's the one major reason why I've not gone to spend my retirement back to the land of my birth.

I'd trade sweaty tropical Bangkok for arctic wastelands any day of the week.

Svartalf · **#16574** by **Svartalf** » May 16, 2019 10:25 am

I don't know if I could live in Bangkok, but I definitely can't live half of the year under the snow.

The_Piper · **#16575** by **The_Piper** » May 16, 2019 2:02 pm

Svartalf wrote:I don't know if I could live in Bangkok, but I definitely can't live half of the year under the snow.

Dig a deep enough burrow, close it in around yourself with dirt, and you'll sleep right through it. :shifty:

Rachel Bronwyn · **#16576** by **Rachel Bronwyn** » May 16, 2019 5:51 pm

It never snows (or even gets cold, really) in the PNW and the climate is far more uncomfortable here than interior BC or Edmonton. It rains most of the year and it's always humid, which makes warm summer insufferable.

It gets both hotter and colder in the interior but it's always dry. You don't feel the cold unless you aren't wearing layers outdoors. Layers won't do shit for you in the PNW. It's not cold enough for snow to stay frozen so you're always soaked, which makes you feel cold. The rest of the year it rains. The hot, hot summers of the interior can be tough if you don't have A/C. If you do and you've got a source of running water outdoors you're fine. When I got too hot outdoors, I'd just submerge myself in the river the house backed onto. On the coast, the humidity makes the heat insufferable. It's hard to cool off when you're always greasy and wet.

I do very poorly in rain forests, temperate or tropical. The constant wetness is just so awful. I always feel like I weigh 400lbs in this climate. I also breath better in the dryer climates, year round. I will put up with months of snow any damn day if it means less humidity.

proudfootz · **#16577** by **proudfootz** » May 16, 2019 6:01 pm

In Oregon we do get a few days in the year when it snows and the snow doesn't melt away for days at a time.

Rachel Bronwyn · **#16578** by **Rachel Bronwyn** » May 16, 2019 6:34 pm

Multiple days of snow in a row in Vancouver is very odd. Most snow we get doesn't stick. We haven't had snow that piled up in years.

proudfootz · **#16579** by **proudfootz** » May 16, 2019 7:21 pm

In the Willamette Valley we are protected from the warmth of the Pacific by the Coast Range. Lots of little micro-climates.

theropod · **#16580** by **theropod** » May 16, 2019 9:06 pm

proudfootz wrote:In the Willamette Valley we are protected from the warmth of the Pacific by the Coast Range. Lots of little micro-climates.

One really neat thing about the Willamette valley is the summer “trade winds”. The valley is nearly straight from the Columbia river to its head near Eugene. When the valley warms in the summer months the heated air rises all the way from Portland area to Eugene. This wind happens nearly every day during the warmer months, and makes for great hang gliding, kite flying and paragliding. While it does get hot in the valley that constant breeze really helps make it bearable. I can’t wait to escape this Africa hot jungle and soak up some of that microclimate.

RS

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