quixotecoyote wrote:

Globe wrote:

Warren Dew wrote:

Globe wrote:And I don't think anyone here blame the INDIVIDUAL SOLDIER.

Everyone should be blaming the individual soldier or soldiers who did it.

Globe wrote:Not that it makes it right, and not that the guy shouldn't be allowed to spend the remainder of his life in a facility where he can't hurt anyone else.

If the stories are right, the guy should be executed, not just because he's a murderer, but because he endangered the lives of his fellow soldiers by helping turn the civilians against them - and his execution would help alleviate that harm.

So you are going to solve the problem with people getting killed.... by killing yet another person?
What do you think you are going to achieve by killing a little more and creating a little more grief?

Given the rampaging mobs after the Korans got burnt, I figure the Afghanis would appreciate the gesture.

Globe wrote:

Warren Dew wrote:

Globe wrote:And I don't think anyone here blame the INDIVIDUAL SOLDIER.

Everyone should be blaming the individual soldier or soldiers who did it.

Globe wrote:Not that it makes it right, and not that the guy shouldn't be allowed to spend the remainder of his life in a facility where he can't hurt anyone else.

If the stories are right, the guy should be executed, not just because he's a murderer, but because he endangered the lives of his fellow soldiers by helping turn the civilians against them - and his execution would help alleviate that harm.

So you are going to solve the problem with people getting killed.... by killing yet another person?
What do you think you are going to achieve by killing a little more and creating a little more grief?

Peter Brown wrote:My perspective.

The work is stressful. The Pentagon knows full well such work can lead to a mental breakdown, but even Army medics can’t say who that one person will be if any that tour or what might happen when they snap.

I’ve had a burnout. Nine years of accumulated pressure, fine one moment, gibbering out of sight in a closed room the next, six years on and still having mental issues after effects.

The man snapped, I feel sorry for him because he literally became someone else when he killed civilians and if he recovers, he might remember what happened like a bad dream where you see what happened but it can’t be you doing what you did, as I do.

These people do have families you know.

Peter Brown wrote:

These people do have families you know.

Are you one of them? How do you know how they feel? Remember in the UK we had riots and a father’s favourite son was killed by rioters by a car. He didn't call for their deaths, he said no revenge killings I'm a Muslim and his father, I have my faith in Allah and Allah wouldn't want revenge murders. He was being the best follower of Islam he could be at that moment?

All you and I deserve is no cover up of what happened and how to prevent it in future if possible.

I don't have to be part of someones family

sandinista wrote: I don't feel sorry for him at all, just his victims. Fuck him.

Revenge-killings are well nigh a certainty.

Nobody knows for sure if he (or even they) was suffering from a mental breakdown. Of course this would be the best way for the military to report it for damage limitation.

Rick wrote:The world doesn’t run on what’s right, justice, or fair, Peter Brown.

If western politicians had a smidgen of decency, they’d pull the troops out of there immediately. The whole notion of sacrificing the lives of more young men in an exercise of futility, to prop up a totally corrupt regime and in a place where we never had any right to be to begin with, is plain obscene, inexcusable.

advaitya wrote:Was creating Taliban an obscenity? Handing them back to those monsters? White man's burden comes in subtle hues these days.

Made of Stars wrote:

advaitya wrote:Was creating Taliban an obscenity? Handing them back to those monsters? White man's burden comes in subtle hues these days.

Why not both? Another wrong isn't likely to make it right, is it?

chairman bill wrote: Were you trained in trolling, or does it just come naturally?

Peter Brown wrote: Get used to it, this is a forum for thinkers and rational people.

Panderos wrote:Maybe we should just spend 3 months conducting a large survey of Afgans asking them if they want us there or not, and bugger off if they don't.