The Clinton Victory Thread

[proudfootz]

I honestly think Sanders may have been a bit more unifying than Clinton (a soulless woman) or Obama (a black man who's obviously a transgender gay atheist Muslim).

He does have the old white man thing working for him, which Republicans love.

A bullshit misogynistic insult. He has the "lets get money out of politics " thing going, which has bipartisan support. Of course criticizing Clinton's corruption and big industry donors couldn't be about legitimate issues, but only anti woman gate. Fucking idiots who bought into that.

Of course Clinton is unifying the country, with supreme negative approval.

Call me a mysogynist. I support Stein.

Are you a Republican?

Did the Republicans dump Trump and nominate Stein?

[crank]

Trump promises a non-interventionist approach, which goes wonderfully with his promises of taking out ISIS and probably most muslims anywhere in the vicinity. With a foreign policy on a path resembling a drunkard's walk, I'm sure world stability will be greatly enhanced by a Trump presidency.

[Boyle]

Trump promises a non-interventionist approach, which goes wonderfully with his promises of taking out ISIS and probably most muslims anywhere in the vicinity. With a foreign policy on a path resembling a drunkard's walk, I'm sure world stability will be greatly enhanced by a Trump presidency.

He won't intervene in anyone else's country because the world is America's country.

[GT2211]

He does have the old white man thing working for him, which Republicans love.

A bullshit misogynistic insult. He has the "lets get money out of politics " thing going, which has bipartisan support. Of course criticizing Clinton's corruption and big industry donors couldn't be about legitimate issues, but only anti woman gate. Fucking idiots who bought into that.

Of course Clinton is unifying the country, with supreme negative approval.

Call me a mysogynist. I support Stein.

Are you a Republican?

Did the Republicans dump Trump and nominate Stein?

No? But Rachel's slight about love of old white guys seemed clearly directed at Republicans. That makes willies super defensive reply of him not being a misogynist because he supports Stein a bit hard to follow.

[proudfootz]

A bullshit misogynistic insult. He has the "lets get money out of politics " thing going, which has bipartisan support. Of course criticizing Clinton's corruption and big industry donors couldn't be about legitimate issues, but only anti woman gate. Fucking idiots who bought into that.

Of course Clinton is unifying the country, with supreme negative approval.

Call me a mysogynist. I support Stein.

Are you a Republican?

Did the Republicans dump Trump and nominate Stein?

No? But Rachel's slight about love of old white guys seemed clearly directed at Republicans. That makes willies super defensive reply of him not being a misogynist because he supports Stein a bit hard to follow.

Rachel's slight of Sanders could be interpreted to indicate that Republicans would favor Sanders for reasons that he's an 'old white man'.

As far as being old and white, it's a dead heat between the Dems and Reps in this contest.

For a significant demographic of Trump supporters, I'm not sure Sanders counts as 'white'.

I doubt Sanders would have more support among Republicans against any woman of their choosing.

But this isn't a very serious derail, as it was apparently meant in jest.

[Rachel Bronwyn]

I have no clue how a light-hearted chuckle about Republicans favouring old white dudes (virtually all American political parties do - the Republicans are just louder and prouder about it, eg: Rep. Steve King at the RNC) is a criticism of Sanders. Y'all are going to have to convince me that's even possible. He's not a Republican. Republicans are the butt of my joke. I quipped his old white man-ness makes him more readily likable to Republicans than Clinton. I literally said nothing remotely critical of the man and somehow I'm insulting Sanders? Fucking seriously? I completely support Sanders. Clearly I don't hate Clinton sufficiently based on the amount of heat I get here for saying literally anything but I'd definitely prefer to see Sanders as the Democratic nominee.

I honestly think Sanders may have been a bit more unifying than Clinton (a soulless woman) or Obama (a black man who's obviously a transgender gay atheist Muslim).

He does have the old white man thing working for him, which Republicans love.

A bullshit mysogynistic insult. He has the "lets get money out of politics " thing going, which has bipartisan support. Of course criticizing Clinton's corruption and big industry donors couldn't be about legitimate issues, but only anti woman gate. Fucking idiots who bought into that.

Of course Clibton is unifying the country, with supreme negative approval.

Call me a mysogynist. I support Stein.

I made a joke about Republicans favouring old white men (On what planet can that be interpreted as misogynous?), which they do to a slightly greater extent than Democrats, and you threw this tantrum, which has no relevance to anything I've said. What is wrong with you? Because your behaviour is shocking.

Misrepresenting the words of someone who doesn't tow your party's line with sufficient gusto in an attempt to portray them as having insulted someone where no such thing occurred makes you look dumb, not them. I don't care if you're a misogynist. I don't know whether you are or not and I don't care either way. The only reason I saw your post (see, unlike you and my posts, I don't read yours except when someone whose posts I do read quotes you) directed at me was someone quoted it. I have no interest in any of your thoughts or feelings, misogynous or otherwise, making the idea I've made any effort to portray you as a misogynist ridiculous.

This has taken me ninety-ish seconds, which is way more of my time than you're worth so BYE!

I swear to god some of you people are so emotional and reactive saying anything is potentially stepping on a landmine. Calm the fuck down. No one's taken your toys.

[Mike_L]

I swear to god some of you people are so emotional and reactive saying anything is potentially stepping on a landmine. Calm the fuck down. No one's taken your toys.

Gimme back my Bernie Sanders dolly...!






Edit to add:

I'm not mocking anyone with this post! Just trying to bring some much-needed levity.

[Teague]

WikiLeaks is leaking again. This time the DNC is getting the shitty end of the deal:

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

MSM coverage:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/22/polit ... ks-emails/

Nice one, DNC. No corruption there. No siree!

If only Clinton was good enough to be elected without cheating...

So finally caught out cheating. Thousands of emails in rigging things for Clinton and who in the circles of power is calling her a bitch for her attacks on democracy?

[Teague]

Neither of which they have or ever would have gotten behind.

Sanders would have had no more unifying an influence on the US than Clinton will or Obama has. Republicans don't even eat at the grownups table. There needs to be a cultural shift in the US before any such thing can occur. Jesus himself couldn't unite the country as it stands and virtually all American politicians claim to love that guy.

There is no amount of skill or sound policy that can unite the USA because Americans are fundamentally opposed to it at this time (and I don't even blame them.) Obama couldn't do it and Sanders couldn't have either.

No but he was the only one that was going to name and shame others in power and coming from the president, that's a pretty powerful platform. We would have incentivised people to march and voice their concerns so yes actually, he could have done more than any other president because no president has rocked the boat like that - we'll never get to see the effects of that now.

[Teague]

WikiLeaks is leaking again. This time the DNC is getting the shitty end of the deal:

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/

MSM coverage:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/22/polit ... ks-emails/

Nice one, DNC. No corruption there. No siree!

If only Clinton was good enough to be elected without cheating...

All those claiming this primary was above board can eat shit now.

Conspiracy theory, my ass.

I'm sure the supporters of the oligarchy will be along soon to try and convince themselves that they were right going with the anti-democratic candidates.

[crank]

ITYS

I'm surprised that isn't as well known as 'IMHO', IMHO, even if I did just make it up. Or is it used? I don't remember seeing it before. I'm listening to DemocracyNow, Assange says the most interesting stuff to him is just now getting addressed, some spreadsheets with all the financials of the DNC. There is an entry "Pay to Play", FFS! It seems not only are the leaks being blamed on the Russians, we're told now it's to help Donald Trump win, and that's why he's changed the Platform to be pro-Russian. Now, there's a conspiracy theory.


Wikileaks continues to prove one the world's most important engines of transparency. You know how dangerous they are perceived to be by the vehemence in the shrill tirades hurled at them, tirades largely devoid of any fact, and obviously so. It's not that they aren't dangerous, they are, extremely, but not to countries, which are people BTW [a reminder should anyone have forgotten], but to governments.

[Willie71]

I have no clue how a light-hearted chuckle about Republicans favouring old white dudes (virtually all American political parties do - the Republicans are just louder and prouder about it, eg: Rep. Steve King at the RNC) is a criticism of Sanders. Y'all are going to have to convince me that's even possible. He's not a Republican. Republicans are the butt of my joke. I quipped his old white man-ness makes him more readily likable to Republicans than Clinton. I literally said nothing remotely critical of the man and somehow I'm insulting Sanders? Fucking seriously? I completely support Sanders. Clearly I don't hate Clinton sufficiently based on the amount of heat I get here for saying literally anything but I'd definitely prefer to see Sanders as the Democratic nominee.

I honestly think Sanders may have been a bit more unifying than Clinton (a soulless woman) or Obama (a black man who's obviously a transgender gay atheist Muslim).

He does have the old white man thing working for him, which Republicans love.

A bullshit mysogynistic insult. He has the "lets get money out of politics " thing going, which has bipartisan support. Of course criticizing Clinton's corruption and big industry donors couldn't be about legitimate issues, but only anti woman gate. Fucking idiots who bought into that.

Of course Clibton is unifying the country, with supreme negative approval.

Call me a mysogynist. I support Stein.

I made a joke about Republicans favouring old white men (On what planet can that be interpreted as misogynous?), which they do to a slightly greater extent than Democrats, and you threw this tantrum, which has no relevance to anything I've said. What is wrong with you? Because your behaviour is shocking.

Misrepresenting the words of someone who doesn't tow your party's line with sufficient gusto in an attempt to portray them as having insulted someone where no such thing occurred makes you look dumb, not them. I don't care if you're a misogynist. I don't know whether you are or not and I don't care either way. The only reason I saw your post (see, unlike you and my posts, I don't read yours except when someone whose posts I do read quotes you) directed at me was someone quoted it. I have no interest in any of your thoughts or feelings, misogynous or otherwise, making the idea I've made any effort to portray you as a misogynist ridiculous.

This has taken me ninety-ish seconds, which is way more of my time than you're worth so BYE!

I swear to god some of you people are so emotional and reactive saying anything is potentially stepping on a landmine. Calm the fuck down. No one's taken your toys.

So the Clinton camp never ever suggested that Sanders is a mysogynist, and that his supporters are too? You can't be that unaware could you?

[Mike_L]

Here we go, just like I've been saying all along...

In signal to military, Hillary Clinton picks Senator Tim Kaine as running mate

By Tom Hall
23 July 2016
...

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In selecting Kaine, Clinton is making clear that she plans on running a right-wing, pro-war campaign targeted at winning over the military and sections of the Republican Party dissatisfied with Trump, and particularly with the Republican candidate’s attitude toward Russia. Clinton also wanted to repudiate any association with the issues of social inequality that motivated the widespread support for her main rival in the primaries, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders.

Kaine is among the most hawkish figures among Senate Democrats. As governor of Virginia from 2006 to 2010, Kaine oversaw billions of dollars in cuts to the state budget. The state of Virginia is a major center for the military and defense industry, and is home to the Pentagon and the headquarters of the CIA.

Between 2009 and 2011, Kaine served as the head of the Democratic National Committee, the leadership body of the Democratic Party. He is close to Wall Street, having recently backed measures to deregulate banks.

As a Senator since 2013, Kaine has regularly called for increased US involvement in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan. He has consistently supported the Obama administration’s reckless brinkmanship against Russia and China, two nuclear-armed powers. He has repeatedly pushed for a Congressional resolution officially declaring war against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in order to clear the way for stepped-up US intervention.

Like Clinton, Kaine has also supported the creation of a no-fly zone in Syria, an action that would quickly provoke a confrontation with Russia.
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Kaine is also a member of the Senate Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees. He is the ranking Democrat on the Armed Services Readiness Subcommittee and the Subcommittee on State Department and USAID Management, International Operations and Bilateral International Development.

Kaine, a devout Catholic who spent time as a missionary in Honduras, opposed access to abortion early in his career. While he claims to be an opponent of the death penalty, he signed off on numerous executions during his tenure as governor.
...

Full text at:
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/07/23/kain-j23.html

[Willie71]

Willhud9: your denial has to end. The DNC offered an apology to Sanders and his supporters.

http://trofire.com/2016/07/25/wasserman ... upporters/

Clinton needs to drop out. Period. If you can't win without cheating, go fuck right off. She's behind by one point to Trump in the latest CBS poll. Disastrous candidate. Disastrous campaign. Lawsuits over rigged primaries and election fraud, losing to Trump, and she hasn't had enough to know its over?

[Shrunk]

Willhud9: your denial has to end. The DNC offered an apology to Sanders and his supporters.

http://trofire.com/2016/07/25/wasserman ... upporters/

Clinton needs to drop out. Period. If you can't win without cheating, go fuck right off. She's behind by one point to Trump in the latest CBS poll. Disastrous candidate. Disastrous campaign. Lawsuits over rigged primaries and election fraud, losing to Trump, and she hasn't had enough to know its over?

She cheated? Evidence, please.

[Willie71]

Willhud9: your denial has to end. The DNC offered an apology to Sanders and his supporters.

http://trofire.com/2016/07/25/wasserman ... upporters/

Clinton needs to drop out. Period. If you can't win without cheating, go fuck right off. She's behind by one point to Trump in the latest CBS poll. Disastrous candidate. Disastrous campaign. Lawsuits over rigged primaries and election fraud, losing to Trump, and she hasn't had enough to know its over?

She cheated? Evidence, please.

You can't be serious suggesting she was unaware and uninvolved in the attempts to discredit Sanders? The DNC has issued an apology today. The mental gymnastics needed to support Clinton astounds me.

[Shrunk]

You can't be serious suggesting she was unaware and uninvolved in the attempts to discredit Sanders? The DNC has issued an apology today. The mental gymnastics needed to support Clinton astounds me.

Maybe she was, maybe she wasn't. It's irrelevant. You say she "cheated". How? Are you under the impression that the DNC is required to be neutral on the question of who will be its nominee? Was the RNC neutral on Trump?

[Willie71]

You can't be serious suggesting she was unaware and uninvolved in the attempts to discredit Sanders? The DNC has issued an apology today. The mental gymnastics needed to support Clinton astounds me.

Maybe she was, maybe she wasn't. It's irrelevant. You say she "cheated". How? Are you under the impression that the DNC is required to be neutral on the question of who will be its nominee? Was the RNC neutral on Trump?

The DNC claims its neutral, and does not put its hand on the scales. They claimed that Sanders was given a fair chance, when in fact they discussed feeding information to the media to discredit him. They used demeaning language, and insulted Sanders and his supporters. Now those same people are supposed to vote democratic to prevent trump? How stupid could the DNC be to take that chance?

[Shrunk]

The DNC claims its neutral, and does not put its hand on the scales. They claimed that Sanders was given a fair chance, when in fact they discussed feeding information to the media to discredit him. They used demeaning language, and insulted Sanders and his supporters.

So no cheating. Thanks for confirming.

[WayOfTheDodo]

Willhud9: your denial has to end. The DNC offered an apology to Sanders and his supporters.

http://trofire.com/2016/07/25/wasserman ... upporters/

Clinton needs to drop out. Period. If you can't win without cheating, go fuck right off. She's behind by one point to Trump in the latest CBS poll. Disastrous candidate. Disastrous campaign. Lawsuits over rigged primaries and election fraud, losing to Trump, and she hasn't had enough to know its over?

She cheated? Evidence, please.

You can't be serious suggesting she was unaware and uninvolved in the attempts to discredit Sanders? The DNC has issued an apology today. The mental gymnastics needed to support Clinton astounds me.

Clinton was more than happy to hire Debbie the Dirtbag the moment she was forced to resign from the DNC for her incompetence and corruption. Goes to show what kind of candidate Clinton is.