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Re: The New And Coming Plague

#3821  Postby Hermit » Sep 01, 2021 11:15 pm

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Hermit wrote:
Seabass wrote:
Alan C wrote:So are there any avenues at all for removing or indicting Ron DeFuckwit for his terminal mishandling of the pandemic in Florida?
[sidebar, wtf are they trying to remove Newsom for?]

He attended dinner party (a fund raiser I think?) without a mask. No, really.

No, really not. Newsom was seen eating with friends at the French Laundry, a high-end restaurant in Napa in November, around the same time he was urging state residents to avoid gatherings with people outside their households. The recall petition had already attracted 1.7 million signatures by April.

Dinner party with friends at a restaurant vs going out clubbing with friends in high volume clubs are generally two different distinctions. The petition to recall Newsome is politically charged and bollocks, but that's the political society we live in now. Impeachment or recalls are political weapons used by the opposite party to force undemocratic measures onto constituents.

Thanks, Will, but your reply is irrelevant to my post, which was nothing more than a correction of fact. The attempt to recall Governor Newsom was not caused or motivated by his maskless attendance at a dinner party. It could not possibly have been. The recall campaign was started in January 2020. The dinner took place in November 2020. Last time I looked cause is supposed to precede effect. The maskless dinner just added impetus to the already existing recall petition. Seabass was bullshitting.

The official pretexts for the recall (per petition form) are:
The grounds for this recall are as Follows: Governor Newsom has implemented laws which are detrimental to the citizens of this state and our way of life. Laws he endorsed favor foreign nationals, in our country illegally, over that of our own citizens. People in this state suffer the highest taxes in the nation, the highest homelessness rates, and the lowest quality of life as a result. He has imposed sanctuary state status and fails to enforce immigration laws. He unilaterally over-ruled the will of the people regarding the death penalty. He seeks to impose additional burdens on our state by the following; removing the protections of Proposition 13, rationing our water use, increasing taxes and restricting parental rights. Having no other recourse, we the people have come together to take this action, remedy these misdeeds and prevent further injustices.
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Re: The New And Coming Plague

#3822  Postby The_Piper » Sep 02, 2021 1:16 am

Joe Rogan tested positive and has symptoms. Hopefully for his sake he's vaccinated. https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/01/media/joe-rogan-covid/index.html
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#3823  Postby The_Piper » Sep 02, 2021 10:01 pm

Maine was averaging under 20 cases a day a few months ago. Now we had 624 new cases reported on Wednesday, which is almost double from the day before. The Delta variant is incredibly easily spread compared to what we dealt with over the winter, the last time it was this widespread. It's not looking good for my area as practically no one is taking any sort of precautions. The elderly people I see unmasked probably don't realize what's going on. They are operating on pre-internet Maine forest time rates.
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Re: The New And Coming Plague

#3824  Postby Seabass » Sep 02, 2021 10:29 pm

Eating horse paste and going blind to own the libs.

These destructive idiots shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a hospital until this pandemic is over.

Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances

SOUTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA, Okla. (KFOR) – A rural Oklahoma doctor said patients who are taking the horse de-wormer medication, ivermectin, to fight COVID-19 are causing emergency room and ambulance back ups.

“There’s a reason you have to have a doctor to get a prescription for this stuff, because it can be dangerous,” said Dr. Jason McElyea.

Dr. McElyea said patients are packing his eastern and southeastern Oklahoma hospitals after taking ivermectin doses meant for a full-sized horse, because they believed false claims the horse de-wormer could fight COVID-19.

“The ERs are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated,” he said.

That’s something McElyea said is now backing up ambulance systems as well.

“All of their ambulances are stuck at the hospital waiting for a bed to open so they can take the patient in and they don’t have any, that’s it,” said Dr. McElyea. “If there’s no ambulance to take the call, there’s no ambulance to come to the call.”

The doctor said many of his patients aren’t afraid of ivermectin. Many of them have used it on their livestock.

“Growing up in a small town, rural area, we’ve all accidentally been exposed to ivermectin at some time. So, it’s something people are familiar with. Because of those accidental sticks, when trying to inoculate cattle, they’re less afraid of it,” he said.

Now, the rural patients are going into their local agricultural or tractor supply store, ignoring the warning signs surrounding the products, and figuring out a dosage themselves.

“Some people taking inappropriate doses have actually put themselves in worse conditions than if they’d caught COVID,” said the doctor.

Dr. McElyea said the patients are suffering from nausea, vomiting, muscle aches and cramping, and that’s only in minor cases.

“The scariest one that I’ve heard of and seen is people coming in with vision loss,” he said.


https://kfor.com/news/local/patients-overdosing-on-ivermectin-backing-up-rural-oklahoma-hospitals-ambulances/
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#3825  Postby Seabass » Sep 02, 2021 10:49 pm

Here's Fox News pushing Ivermectin hard. How can so many millions of fully grown human adults with fully developed human brains tune in to this obvious horse shit and not figure out that it's obvious horse shit?!

Fox News misinforms public by hyping horse dewormer as COVID 19 treatment
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#3826  Postby Greg the Grouper » Sep 02, 2021 11:24 pm

We should probably revise our news reporting regulations here in the states.
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Re: The New And Coming Plague

#3827  Postby The_Piper » Sep 03, 2021 3:25 am

"This is the new McCarthyism", says Gutfeld.
That coming from the same people who are calling Biden, a staunch capitalist, a communist. Wasn't the whole McCarthy thing going around accusing people of being communist? Wasn't that the McCarthy thing? YOU'RE the new McCarthyism. Cue the picard tree. :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard: :picard :picard:
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#3828  Postby hackenslash » Sep 03, 2021 2:14 pm

Arthur Miller would be rolling in his grave.

Meanwhile, another new symptom of long COVID; reduced liver function.

https://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/early/2021/08/25/ASN.2021060734
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#3829  Postby Caper » Sep 03, 2021 2:44 pm

Seabass wrote:Here's Fox News pushing Ivermectin hard. How can so many millions of fully grown human adults with fully developed human brains tune in to this obvious horse shit and not figure out that it's obvious horse shit?!

Fox News misinforms public by hyping horse dewormer as COVID 19 treatment


I'm starting to think that us non-conservatives aren't violent enough.
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#3830  Postby Seabass » Sep 03, 2021 9:24 pm

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#3831  Postby Alan C » Sep 03, 2021 9:42 pm

Caper wrote:
Seabass wrote:Here's Fox News pushing Ivermectin hard. How can so many millions of fully grown human adults with fully developed human brains tune in to this obvious horse shit and not figure out that it's obvious horse shit?!

Fox News misinforms public by hyping horse dewormer as COVID 19 treatment


I'm starting to think that us non-conservatives aren't violent enough.


Could do with a few more 'Rand Paul's Neighbour's.

When is there going to be an avalanche of lawsuits unto these dangerous motherfuckers, more than a few people might need to recover medical costs that insurance companies [probably rightly] will balk on.
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#3832  Postby Alan C » Sep 04, 2021 1:13 am

I've said every village has it's idiot and unfortunately we are no exception. I've had some issues with Newshub but this article seems thoughtfully done. It is a debunking of said village idiot;

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/09/coronavirus-debunking-a-kiwi-doctor-s-two-hour-anti-vaccination-video.html

On a swearier note, I saw this wee gem earlier;

On vaccine encouragement [title mine]
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#3833  Postby Seabass » Sep 04, 2021 2:07 am


Angry Men With Zip-Ties Ambush School Principal After COVID Masking Request

The surreal confrontation stemmed from the Arizona school asking a child who was exposed to the virus to abide by public health guidelines.


Police arrested a 40-year-old Arizona dad after he stormed into an elementary school principal’s office with a friend wielding plastic handcuffs, insisting the administration broke the law by asking his child and six others to wear a mask and quarantine after being in close contact with someone who tested positive for COVID-19.

“I can tell you the end result of that incident was we did make one arrest for trespassing,” Sgt. Richard Gradillas of the Tucson, Arizona, Police Department told The Daily Beast, identifying the dad arrested as Rishi Rambaran.

Two men accompanied Rambaran on Thursday as he ambushed Principal Diane Vargo while she sat with another educator at the Mesquite Elementary School in Tucson. One of the men, Kelly Walker, livestreamed the incident on Instagram, explaining that Rambaran, who is also known as “Reese,” had called him and asked him to be there in case he needed backup. The third man, who has not been identified, stood in the doorway of Vargo’s office with a fistful of “law enforcement-grade” zip ties at the ready—as the trio was prepared to make a citizen’s arrest, Walker said.

“When this kind of coercion and bullying is perpetrated by school administrators, breaking the law, a citizens’ arrest is an option worth looking into,” Walker wrote on Facebook. Gradillas told the Beast that in his 14 years on the force, he’s “never seen a citizens’ arrest.”

The Vail School District’s COVID policy follows public health guidance issued by Pima County, which requires students to quarantine at home for at least a week after exposure. The school in fact was abiding by Pima’s rules, and had not violated any laws by asking the students to mask up or quarantine.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/arizona-dad-rishi-rambaran-arrested-after-angry-trio-threatens-to-zip-tie-principal-over-covid-rules
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#3834  Postby jamest » Sep 04, 2021 2:47 am

The_Piper wrote:Maine was averaging under 20 cases a day a few months ago. Now we had 624 new cases reported on Wednesday, which is almost double from the day before. The Delta variant is incredibly easily spread compared to what we dealt with over the winter, the last time it was this widespread. It's not looking good for my area as practically no one is taking any sort of precautions. The elderly people I see unmasked probably don't realize what's going on. They are operating on pre-internet Maine forest time rates.

Do you realise that there are less than 1000 deaths attributed to covid-19 in Maine in the last 18 months? A State with nearly 1.5 million people.

Can you explain to the members here why you should get ANY thumbs-ups for your scaremongering?

YOU (and people like you)(of which there are many) are precisely why the world is now in disarray for a problem which really ISN"T THAT SERIOUS.

If only there were a virus that wiped-out wimps.
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#3835  Postby arugula2 » Sep 04, 2021 5:33 am

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The_Piper wrote:Maine was averaging under 20 cases a day a few months ago. Now we had 624 new cases reported on Wednesday, which is almost double from the day before. The Delta variant is incredibly easily spread compared to what we dealt with over the winter, the last time it was this widespread. It's not looking good for my area as practically no one is taking any sort of precautions. The elderly people I see unmasked probably don't realize what's going on. They are operating on pre-internet Maine forest time rates.

Do you realise that there are less than 1000 deaths attributed to covid-19 in Maine in the last 18 months? A State with nearly 1.5 million people.

Can you explain to the members here why you should get ANY thumbs-ups for your scaremongering?

YOU (and people like you)(of which there are many) are precisely why the world is now in disarray for a problem which really ISN"T THAT SERIOUS.


If only there were a virus that wiped-out wimps.

There is. It’s called COVID-19. That’s the point. And you’re a disingenuous troll. Old people, ppl with compromised immune systems, ppl with chronic diseases... and it’s highly contagious, fast-acting, and isn’t fully understood. Masks are a no-brainer. Whining about someone alarmed at the lack of mask-wearing is also, apparently, a no-brainer.
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#3836  Postby Seabass » Sep 04, 2021 6:09 am

jamest wrote:
The_Piper wrote:Maine was averaging under 20 cases a day a few months ago. Now we had 624 new cases reported on Wednesday, which is almost double from the day before. The Delta variant is incredibly easily spread compared to what we dealt with over the winter, the last time it was this widespread. It's not looking good for my area as practically no one is taking any sort of precautions. The elderly people I see unmasked probably don't realize what's going on. They are operating on pre-internet Maine forest time rates.

Do you realise that there are less than 1000 deaths attributed to covid-19 in Maine in the last 18 months? A State with nearly 1.5 million people.

Can you explain to the members here why you should get ANY thumbs-ups for your scaremongering?

YOU (and people like you)(of which there are many) are precisely why the world is now in disarray for a problem which really ISN"T THAT SERIOUS.

If only there were a virus that wiped-out wimps.


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#3837  Postby Agi Hammerthief » Sep 04, 2021 6:39 am

jamest wrote:… a problem which really ISN"T THAT SERIOUS.

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#3838  Postby hackenslash » Sep 04, 2021 7:15 am

jamest wrote:Do you realise that there are less than 1000 deaths attributed to covid-19 in Maine in the last 18 months? A State with nearly 1.5 million people.


Tell us about the other variables you haven't factored into your brilliant statistical analysis, Jimmy. Tell us what that number is as a percentage of closed cases. Tell us about the CFR and the IFR. Tell us what prophylactics have been available in Maine since the first cases hit. Tell us how long after the beginning of the pandemic Maine was first hit, in fact. Tell us all about how you accounted for population density, for example. Tell us about what mitigations Maine has had in place since the beginning of the pandemic. Tell us how Maine has compared to other states and what mitigations they've had in place during the pandemic.

It's easy to pull numbers out of your rectal sphincter. Much harder to do the thinking. Statistical analysis isn't for everyone, mate. I couldn't even claim to be much cop at it myself, but you and I both know it's well, well beyond you to even guesstimate a correct conclusion.

Can you explain to the members here why you should get ANY thumbs-ups for your scaremongering?


Can you explain to the members here why the dog-whistling? It isn't scaremongering if there's a genuine reason for concern.

Which dovetails quite nicely into this...

YOU (and people like you)(of which there are many) are precisely why the world is now in disarray for a problem which really ISN"T THAT SERIOUS.


4.6 million deaths (with no end in sight, in more than small part thanks to fuckwits who think they can't trust big pharma so they reject what big pharma has produced for them and opted for what big pharma produced for sheep, not entirely unironically) might not seem that serious to an end-times fanboi, Jimmy, but to those of us without a fantasy Plan B, the future health of our loved ones isn't a trivial matter.

Also, I've spent a goodly portion of the last few pages of the thread detailing research that shows that there are effects other than death.

If only there were a virus that wiped-out wimps.


Nope, but there's one that wipes out morons, and it's putting a mahoosive dent in your fantasy fanclub in Florida and the Carolinas as we speak.
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#3839  Postby hackenslash » Sep 04, 2021 8:48 am

Oh, I knew there was something I'd forgotten to add, which is this: evolution.

It's such a shame that James has wasted his time here so badly, and even more so that the free education that's been available to him for considerably more than a decade has failed to teach him about the impact of fitness gradients on an evolving population.

Just in case, James, you want to reduce your ignorance sufficiently to make informed decisions, I prepared a primer on viruses, vaccines and evolution. It's pitched right at your level, and it also details what we've learned about the virus in the last 20 months, and in particular about the long-term effects of the virus.

Some of it makes for pretty hairy reading. It is, however, what the science is telling us. No scaremongering, no motivated propaganda, just hard science.

Qualified Immunity

But, of course, you're not interested in that, because you're a professional fantasist.
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#3840  Postby hackenslash » Sep 04, 2021 2:33 pm

This slipped the net.

A (small) voxel-based PET imaging study showing hypometabolism in children. Hypometabolism is a strong indicator of several neurodegenerative disorders, including Parkinson's and other dementias (this coupled with evidence of Lewy body production, also an indicator for these disorders) and viral neurotropism.

Similar patterns of [18F]-FDG brain PET hypometabolism in paediatric and adult patients with long COVID: a paediatric case series

Or maybe I'm just scaremongering...
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