minininja wrote:I wish we lived in a democracy.

solazy wrote:What a great week for Labour!
Dianne Abbot wants to recruit 10,000 more police and pay them £30 a year.
Jeremy Corbyn rushes up to Manchester to celebrate Andy Burnham's success as metro mayor only to find that Burnham avoids him by dining with his mates in a restaurant.
Politics in the UK is now phoney. No party leader will mix with the general public. They will only speak if surrounded by their own supporters and a neutral cameraman. The PM will not engage in a televised debate. Dissenters will be kept at a distance.
It did not used to be like this. It is now less of a democracy. We can't criticise the likes of Putin anymore.

mrjonno wrote:Err Scotland is a one party state as well and no the Green party doesn't count

Great English nationalists running England, Scottish nationalists Scotland, Northern Ireland likely to soon be dominated by a party that doesn't want to be part of the UK

UK such a well functioning united state

A one-party state is a form of government where the country is ruled by a single political party, meaning only one political party exists and the forming of other political parties is forbidden.

ronmcd wrote:But other than that

Byron wrote:And as the SNP pipped the SLab branch office to the post, in Scotland, those policies won't be tainted by association with a Corbyn defeat.

Every time they're suggested by Labour members in future, it'll be, "What, you crazy? Remember 2017!"

The chief, and almost the only, business of the Syphogrants is to take care that no man may live idle, but that every one may follow his trade diligently; yet they do not wear themselves out with perpetual toil from morning to night, as if they were beasts of burden, which as it is indeed a heavy slavery, so it is everywhere the common course of life amongst all mechanics except the Utopians: but they, dividing the day and night into twenty-four hours, appoint six of these for work, three of which are before dinner and three after; they then sup, and at eight o'clock, counting from noon, go to bed and sleep eight hours: the rest of their time, besides that taken up in work, eating, and sleeping, is left to every man's discretion

1983 v 2017: how Labour's manifestos compare

In the wake of reaction to the party’s leaked manifesto, Alan Travis looks back at the ‘longest suicide note in history’

It is an irony of history that one of the little-remembered but key elements of Labour’s 1983 manifesto, infamously dubbed the longest suicide note in history, was a pledge that Britain would leave the European Economic Community within five years.

Fast-forward to 2017 and Labour’s leaked draft manifesto, with its vows to renationalise the railways and Royal Mail, has already been attacked as “dragging Britain back to the 1970s” and predictably dubbed by the Tories as “the new suicide note”.

The 1983 manifesto, The New Hope for Britain, was the product of the party’s labyrinthine internal processes. It included promises to cancel the Trident programme and to refuse to deploy US nuclear cruise missiles, to abolish the House of Lords, and to bring about “a fundamental and irreversible shift in the balance of power and wealth in favour of working people and their families”.

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