kyrani99 wrote:

the_5th_ape wrote:kyrani99, please come back with some medical evidence to support your fantastic stories. Till then nobody here will take you seriously.

Of course!

Shrunk wrote:you are able to induce remission just thru thinking cancers away.

kyrani99 wrote:

the_5th_ape wrote:kyrani99, please come back with some medical evidence to support your fantastic stories. Till then nobody here will take you seriously.

Of course!

kyrani99 wrote:

the_5th_ape wrote:kyrani99, please come back with some medical evidence to support your fantastic stories. Till then nobody here will take you seriously.

Of course!

kyrani99 wrote:

Fallible wrote:

kyrani99 wrote:

SafeAsMilk wrote:
Stow the preaching, please.

I said "all I know is..." this is expressing a personal opinion not preaching.

You know the bit where you said 'I know' and then made a claim? That's not just you giving an opinion. It's you attempting to claim that your opinion is a fact.

No I am not claiming it as a fact. I am saying that it is something I know.

For it to be a fact I have to be able to give evidence that is convincing for you. I can't do that.

I know it for myself alone.

kyrani99 wrote:

Fallible wrote:

kyrani99 wrote:

I haven't professed to be an expert in neuroscience but oncology is another matter. IMO I can talk with more authority than an oncologist, after all I have mastered deliberately effecting spontaneous remission. An oncologist can't even dream of doing that.

No you haven't, luv.

That is only your opinion. However I know my reality.

Fallible wrote:

kyrani99 wrote:I don't see that talking about and expressing my views and beliefs makes me lacking in humility. And as far as my own abilities are concerned, I believe I can accurately appraise what I am capable of and what I am not.

Of course you do. Unfortunately, lots of completely clueless people also believe they can accurately appraise what they are capable of and what they are not, so your favourable opinion of yourself has no value to anyone but yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

I don't know how these guys did this experiment but I don't see that it adds up to real life.
In 52 years of adult life and having been both of a migrant family and worked at a university for many years, I have been among both learned people and those with little or no education. And I have not seen this effect. There is sometimes one or two people who might overestimate what they can do or miscalculate what another can or cannot do but it is a trivial effect. 1 in thousands.

The effects that I have consistently seen are:
1. some educated people think they are a cut above others and expect that others should hang off their every word, and
2. uneducated people refusing to accept stuff just because some academic or doctor etc said so.

One piece of evidence is that a large number of totally uneducated people, who are able to use their wit, go into business and make a success of it. My father was one of them and many other successful business people he associated with had also no formal education worth speak of.

kyrani99 wrote:
I know it for a fact but I can t claim it a fact in the common domain because the proof that I have is not in the common domain

kyrani99 wrote:No I am not claiming it as a fact.

kyrani99 wrote:I know it for a fact but I can't claim it a fact in the common domain because the proof that I have is not in the common domain.

SafeAsMilk wrote:

kyrani99 wrote:
FINANCIERS control the medical industry. These are the super rich multinationals. They dictate what is taught at university, what a doctor can say and do and what governments and governing bodies can do.

You reckon they will make money from a cure! Look at the situation.
They are busy milking the person, their insurance company and the government, for as much as they can and for as long as they can. Do you really think that a cure will be profitable, when you see this happening?

Medical ethics is all about stopping doctors from operating repeatedly or continuing to perform some intervention until there is nothing left of the person, until they can be thrown in the trash.

Because, of course, none of these super-rich multinationals EVER get cancer, they want to be part of your alleged system of exploitation too. They'd NEVER support a cure for cancer

As usual, your conspiracy theory falls apart at even the most cursory glance. Back to the drawing board.

kyrani99 wrote:

SafeAsMilk wrote:

kyrani99 wrote:
FINANCIERS control the medical industry. These are the super rich multinationals. They dictate what is taught at university, what a doctor can say and do and what governments and governing bodies can do.

You reckon they will make money from a cure! Look at the situation.
They are busy milking the person, their insurance company and the government, for as much as they can and for as long as they can. Do you really think that a cure will be profitable, when you see this happening?

Medical ethics is all about stopping doctors from operating repeatedly or continuing to perform some intervention until there is nothing left of the person, until they can be thrown in the trash.

Because, of course, none of these super-rich multinationals EVER get cancer, they want to be part of your alleged system of exploitation too. They'd NEVER support a cure for cancer

As usual, your conspiracy theory falls apart at even the most cursory glance. Back to the drawing board.

These creeps are not exempt. They sure get cancer and other disease that are the result of a nocebo effects. What's more they are not able to effect any self help program. If they are toxic, which I would say most of them are, if not all, then they have no other recourse than medical treatment. So great is the irony.

The reason is because toxic people all belong to networks. These networks may look like a circle of friends but they are not the same thing. You can reject someone and stop being friends with them if you are non-toxic because the non-toxic person has autonomy. Toxic people are locked into their system.

Toxic people's people's networks are similar to a gang and if there are others that want to do them harm, then they have no ability to stand against it. They are part of the one mindset. I have seen that most toxic people are hassled by the very people that they call "my people" and commonly spouses or other close relatives. I have even seen toxic children that the toxic parent has trained in the ways of being toxic, attack their toxic parent(s).

There are several reasons.
One is that toxic people never relate in a normal fashion. They always want power and influence over the other person.

And then there is also the "quintessential" as I have heard some admit. And this quintessential is "there for the taking"! Other toxic people around them are an easy source for them to get their narcissistic supply. They hack one another.

There is also the reason that there is always a struggle for power among circle of friend (gang ) members.

And of course for any that might squeal about how toxic people operate or even the fact of their existence (as my late husband had done), they face an angry gang, who can exterminate them very easily.

I was able to fight them on my husband's behalf for several weeks, but when I decided it was a waste of time because he wasn't worth it anyway, he was gone within about an hour. I decided to stop fighting for him at around 11:30 pm and the doctor, who rang me to tell me he'd died said he was pronounced dead at 1 am.

They'd NEVER support a cure for cancer because they know exactly what it is all about. They know there is no cure. There is no cure for heart disease, no cure for diabetes, no cure for strokes, no cure for autoimmune diseases and so on. A cure is a joke because the adverse bodily reactivity IS the disease.
What pill fixes a knife in the back? It's all the way to the bank!
And when non-toxic people wake up and never get sick again, then not only the money dries up but all they can do is hack each other to death... it's the narcissistic supply thing. Evil dead!

SafeAsMilk wrote:I think those guys shooting stress rays at Kyrani missed that same boat. Instead of standing around in muggy driveways, they could be hanging out in air conditioned courtrooms, making millions by freaking out lawyers and witnesses. I guess they're just not evil enough.

kyrani99 wrote:

SafeAsMilk wrote:I think those guys shooting stress rays at Kyrani missed that same boat. Instead of standing around in muggy driveways, they could be hanging out in air conditioned courtrooms, making millions by freaking out lawyers and witnesses. I guess they're just not evil enough.

You seriously under-estimate me.

kyrani99 wrote:

Agrippina wrote:

kyrani99 wrote:

Agrippina wrote:Where did the "universal observer" come from?

It is ever existing.

That doesn't answer the question: where did it come from?

All I know is that it has always existed and will always exist. It is existence.

kyrani99 wrote:

Agrippina wrote:

From the essay:

As we navigate through the world, we are changed by a variety of experiences. Of special note are experiences of three types: (1) we observe what is happening around us (other people behaving, sounds of music, instructions directed at us, words on pages, images on screens); (2) we are exposed to the pairing of unimportant stimuli (such as sirens) with important stimuli (such as the appearance of police cars); (3) we are punished or rewarded for behaving in certain ways.

We become more effective in our lives if we change in ways that are consistent with these experiences – if we can now recite a poem or sing a song, if we are able to follow the instructions we are given, if we respond to the unimportant stimuli more like we do to the important stimuli, if we refrain from behaving in ways that were punished, if we behave more frequently in ways that were rewarded.

There have been experiences that have shocked me and changed me.

I am observant of the world around me.

I do recognize a significant signal and one that is insignificant.

But the bit about behaviours having been the result of reward and punishment, doesn't pan out for me.

I have upset huge amount of people who are going all out to do me harm and have caused me some bad problems in the past. But there is not one iota they can do that will stop me. It is full steam ahead!

And no reward is going to change my course.

My father tried everything, from the time I was about 3yo, with methods of reward and punishment, to modify my behaviour and make me behave as he wanted me to be. He failed and I won having learnt the value of defiance.

This the set of the sail and not of the gale that determines the way the ship will go!

I have seen that the greatest benefit is to be able to stand alone, with no need of support from others.

I obtain all of my support from within.

I can fight the war against a multitude of evil people and I have the greatest efficiency, regardless of others. In fact I know with certainty that I will win.