asdfjkl wrote:bump
replies? or do i win this?
You're talking to yourself. You ask questions... we respond or ask you a question... you utlimately ignore us (as, for example, when I asked you what there was to worry about), and repeat the same mantra about existence being 'self evident'. You even have the gall to demand further replies, lest our lack of responses suffice to prove you right. Right? I wasn't even aware that you had presented an argument!!!
For the final time, there's nothing that's self-evident except the self. The irony is, that the self is not evident in the sense that you keep utilising the concept - as in the sense of something that is observed/perceived. The self is evident in its relations to these observations/perceptions. Its thoughts about the things that are observed/perceived, and its desires and intent that are mirrored in the motivations which drive its interactions with them, are the evidence of the self.
Even the term 'self-evident' alludes to an innate knowledge of the self not borne of 'evidence'. I mean, how can something be self-evident unless there's already a self unto which 'something' becomes self-evident?
Self-evidence, as you use it, is a form of delusion. The link I provided earlier explains that people have understood, at least since the times of the ancient-Greeks, that the actual existence of no thing is evident in its perception. Read Plato's allegory of the cave, for instance.
You simply abuse what 'self evident' means. That's what naive realists do. They assume too much from their perceptions. Then, they draw all sorts of silly conclusions from what is [in their eyes] obviously 'self evident'.
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