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Dolorian wrote:
"Philosophy is the handmaiden of Theology; Philosophy helps elucidate Theology and prevents it from falling into superstition"
Dolorian wrote:
"Philosophy is the handmaiden of Science; Philosophy helps elucidate Science and prevents it from falling into pseudoscience"
Dolorian wrote:When it comes to the relationship between Philosophy and Theology a popular way of describing this relationship is as follows:
"Philosophy is the handmaiden of Theology; Philosophy helps elucidate Theology and prevents it from falling into superstition"
But of course, we can agree that Theology is bunk,
so would you agree with a similar statement but with regards to Philosophy and Science?
"Philosophy is the handmaiden of Science; Philosophy helps elucidate Science and prevents it from falling into pseudoscience"
Would you agree with that assessment? Why, why not?
Animavore wrote:A proper philosophy would expose theology as a superstition in my opinion.
I thought science was a philosophy and its own rules are what keep it from falling into pseudoscience, no?
kennyc wrote:Philosophy is dead.....its time is past....we don't need it and as you say, it just encourages the theists.
jamest wrote:kennyc wrote:Philosophy is dead.....its time is past....we don't need it and as you say, it just encourages the theists.
Philosophy is dead? You actually think that we live amidst times when we no longer need - using reason - to question any aspect of our lives?
Are you fucking stupid?
That's a genuine question, because if you are I'll have to go easy on you. If not, then reap the ensuing whirlwind.
surreptitious57 wrote: Philosophy by contrast answers questions which may or may not pertain to observational reality but cannot be tested.
The only discipline that provides definitive answers is mathematics
The laws of physics are expressed in mathematical form so the relationship therefore between science and mathematics is more profound that that between science and philosophy
Dolorian wrote:When it comes to the relationship between Philosophy and Theology a popular way of describing this relationship is as follows:
"Philosophy is the handmaiden of Theology; Philosophy helps elucidate Theology and prevents it from falling into superstition"
But of course, we can agree that Theology is bunk, so would you agree with a similar statement but with regards to Philosophy and Science?
"Philosophy is the handmaiden of Science; Philosophy helps elucidate Science and prevents it from falling into pseudoscience"
Would you agree with that assessment? Why, why not?
surreptitious57 wrote: The only discipline that provides definitive answers is mathematics which uses proof to validate the truth value of any hypothesis.
SpeedOfSound wrote:jamest wrote:kennyc wrote:Philosophy is dead.....its time is past....we don't need it and as you say, it just encourages the theists.
Philosophy is dead? You actually think that we live amidst times when we no longer need - using reason - to question any aspect of our lives?
Are you fucking stupid?
That's a genuine question, because if you are I'll have to go easy on you. If not, then reap the ensuing whirlwind.
It's not dead. Just that guys like you make us want to take it out and shoot it in the head.
hackenslash wrote:surreptitious57 wrote: Philosophy by contrast answers questions which may or may not pertain to observational reality but cannot be tested.
Elementary fact: If the answers cannot be tested, they're not answers. Philosophy doesn't answer questions, it asks them only.The only discipline that provides definitive answers is mathematics
Categorically untrue. Science provides definitive answers, as long as the question is properly formulated. Example:
What will happen when I let go of this pencil?
Let go of the pencil and watch it fall to the ground.
Answer: It fell to the ground.
This question was definitively answered by science.The laws of physics are expressed in mathematical form so the relationship therefore between science and mathematics is more profound that that between science and philosophy
This is just silly, and I debunked it before you posted. Read up.
kennyc wrote::rofl: Philosophy had its time. It's done. It's been completely subsumed into other areas. It is currently useless.
Believe what you will based on how you 'have grown up' that's gotta be truth.
surreptitious57 wrote:
I should have said that mathematics is the only discipline that always provide definitive answers
Because scientific evidence is not always absolute whereas mathematical proof is
surreptitious57 wrote:The definition of proof is that which is beyond all doubt and not just reasonable doubt
And all equations by default are examples of this [ one plus one equals two for example ]
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