Teague wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Teague wrote:So why is it ok for black kids to get treated like adults all the time?

It's not.

When is it ever the answer to racial inequality to make things equally unjust for everybody?

What's wrong with everyone feeling the full extent of the police state?

Nothing, if you're pro-police state. If you're not, well, the question answers itself.

Scared that people might rebel against it and make a change? Too scared to stand up with your kinsmen and stand with them?

Gosh, that's so brave of you to volunteer some teenagers for your armchair revolution. How bout you get off your ass and take the lumps yourself instead of shrieking on the internet, or are you too scared to actually suffer some of the injustice you want to foist on others?

SafeAsMilk wrote:

Teague wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Teague wrote:So why is it ok for black kids to get treated like adults all the time?

It's not.

When is it ever the answer to racial inequality to make things equally unjust for everybody?

What's wrong with everyone feeling the full extent of the police state?

Nothing, if you're pro-police state. If you're not, well, the question answers itself.

Scared that people might rebel against it and make a change? Too scared to stand up with your kinsmen and stand with them?

Gosh, that's so brave of you to volunteer some teenagers for your armchair revolution. How bout you get off your ass and take the lumps yourself instead of shrieking on the internet, or are you too scared to actually suffer some of the injustice you want to foist on others?

Teague is busy judging the US police on this by his own standard of how "justice" ought to be done. If the same thing had happened in the UK, where he and I hail from, the same standards would apply. Presumption of innocent until found guilty and anonymity for minors during the investigation, extending to the period from being arrested and charged, including the trial if the judge says so. It can extend beyond a guilty verdict in some cases.

Heck, the boys who murdered Jamie Bulger were identified but we're given new identities to protect them since they were minors.

This situation isn't unique to Teague's assumption that everything the American police touch is somehow corrupt and rotten, some twisted conspiracy cooked up by a broken system. It's how the law is set down. It's that just through his conspiracy addled eyes, there ain't a cop your side of the pond can do anything right, even when they are doing just that.

No doubt, this will make me some sort of apologist for murdering scumbag, cowardly cops again in his mind but I struggle watching someone spewing what is justified condemnation in some cases all over every news story regardless of if it applies in each case, without challenging it.

Some more details:

http://www.newsweek.com/hanging-boy-biracial-8-years-old-black-white-new-hampshire-lynching-claremont-664415

“They were playing,” Slattery said, “and there’s a tire swing that was hanging from a tree but the tire was not there, just the rope, and there’s a picnic table there. My grandson was there, and the boys were playing with the rope, and the 14-year-olds were saying ‘oh look at us,’ and putting the rope around their necks, and then they said to my grandson, ‘here, you do it.' And he’s 8 years old and he put that rope around his neck. And the boys said, 'A-ha!' and shoved him off the table. They did a scare and pushed him at the same time, and that’s when my grandson was hung.”

That's the story from the victim's grandmother. If that's what happened I think labeling it a lynching is a bit dishonest. Still a bad situation and very fortunate that there was no serious injury or death.

It's why the police need to investigate before minors are identified and subject to potentially unwarranted harassment and trial by Internet. May be that the story isn't what was originally presented and has the potential to turn into a rerun of the Salem Witch Trials by interwebs. It's why we have legal systems in place rather than knee jerk mob vengeance.

monkeyboy wrote:

Teague wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Teague wrote:So why is it ok for black kids to get treated like adults all the time?

It's not.

When is it ever the answer to racial inequality to make things equally unjust for everybody?

What's wrong with everyone feeling the full extent of the police state? Scared that people might rebel against it and make a change? Too scared to stand up with your kinsmen and stand with them?

Wow, your moral compass spins like a fan some days.

Minors have protection from being identified during police investigations both sides of the pond. When the investigation is complete and charges are laid (if that happens) then these minors may well be charged as adults and the anonymity bit might be dropped. That other minors have been identified previously doesn't affect this case at its current state. There's many a case in the UK where minors (killers included) are not identified to the public even after convictions have been secured in adult courts.

Seems there's no winning with you as far as USA cops go. They act outside the law, they're murdering bastards. The act within the law, they're at best cowards and corrupt in some way. None of them can do their jobs right, even when they are doing it right.

What should they do here? Ignore the law and do as the mob demands?

And where the fuck did I say they should be identified?

SafeAsMilk wrote:

Teague wrote:

purplerat wrote:

Teague wrote:So why is it ok for black kids to get treated like adults all the time?

It's not.

When is it ever the answer to racial inequality to make things equally unjust for everybody?

What's wrong with everyone feeling the full extent of the police state?

Nothing, if you're pro-police state. If you're not, well, the question answers itself.

Scared that people might rebel against it and make a change? Too scared to stand up with your kinsmen and stand with them?

Gosh, that's so brave of you to volunteer some teenagers for your armchair revolution. How bout you get off your ass and take the lumps yourself instead of shrieking on the internet, or are you too scared to actually suffer some of the injustice you want to foist on others?

Since I'm not lynching anyone or breaking the law how the fuck does that even make sense? So you're fine being a racist schumck then I see - we'll just keep it for the blacks, right?

Teague wrote:

SafeAsMilk wrote:

Teague wrote:

purplerat wrote:
It's not.

When is it ever the answer to racial inequality to make things equally unjust for everybody?

What's wrong with everyone feeling the full extent of the police state?

Nothing, if you're pro-police state. If you're not, well, the question answers itself.

Scared that people might rebel against it and make a change? Too scared to stand up with your kinsmen and stand with them?

Gosh, that's so brave of you to volunteer some teenagers for your armchair revolution. How bout you get off your ass and take the lumps yourself instead of shrieking on the internet, or are you too scared to actually suffer some of the injustice you want to foist on others?

Since I'm not lynching anyone or breaking the law how the fuck does that even make sense?

Because you're demanding that some teenagers receive unjust treatment to benefit your armchair revolution. So why don't you take some unjust treatment for your armchair revolution instead of demanding that someone else take it? I guess that would require actual strength of conviction, and it's pretty clear you haven't got that.

So you're fine being a racist schumck then I see - we'll just keep it for the blacks, right?

Now that makes no sense. I'm actually interested in justice for everyone, but apparently you're not. Thanks for showing everyone here what a coward you are though, and how you're willing to shriek "racist" when you're the one deciding that someone should experience injustice because of the color of their skin

SafeAsMilk wrote:

Teague wrote:

SafeAsMilk wrote:

Teague wrote:

What's wrong with everyone feeling the full extent of the police state?

Nothing, if you're pro-police state. If you're not, well, the question answers itself.

Scared that people might rebel against it and make a change? Too scared to stand up with your kinsmen and stand with them?

Gosh, that's so brave of you to volunteer some teenagers for your armchair revolution. How bout you get off your ass and take the lumps yourself instead of shrieking on the internet, or are you too scared to actually suffer some of the injustice you want to foist on others?

Since I'm not lynching anyone or breaking the law how the fuck does that even make sense?

Because you're demanding that some teenagers receive unjust treatment to benefit your armchair revolution. So why don't you take some unjust treatment for your armchair revolution instead of demanding that someone else take it? I guess that would require actual strength of conviction, and it's pretty clear you haven't got that.

So you're fine being a racist schumck then I see - we'll just keep it for the blacks, right?

Now that makes no sense. I'm actually interested in justice for everyone, but apparently you're not. Thanks for showing everyone here what a coward you are though, and how you're willing to shriek "racist" when you're the one deciding that someone should experience injustice because of the color of their skin

No, I'm demanding they receive the same treatment, which would be just

LOL coward... what a dick.

Teague wrote:
No, I'm demanding they receive the same treatment, which would be just

So a white minor getting railroaded by the legal system is, in your mind, just because it also happens to black minors?

Justice is everyone gets treated equally and fairly right? Attmetped murder of an 8 year old is a pretty serious over this side of the pond.

Teague wrote:

No, I'm demanding they receive the same treatment, which would be just

Eye for an eye, how just Glad to know for you it's all about vengeance, not justice.

LOL coward... what a dick.

Indeed, you are the most cowardly dick I've ever seen on this forum.

Being that you're not that intelligent you would of course read into it like that. I can't help that you're a moron though, can I. So we should should leave things the same then and just let the blacks suffer unjust treatment because if it was a few black teenages that did that to a white 8 years old blond girl I can guess what would happen because black kids are someone different from white kids. You accuse me of being a coward and can't even stand up for your kinsmen you spineless sack of shit.

(PS. I realise we're breaking the FUA here so please, carry on what you started with the childish namecalling)

Wouldn't it be better to campaign for better treatment of black people,minors included within a justice system, to reach parity with other members of the community than lower standards all around?
What you appeared to be insisting on was the same piss poor standards applied all around to achieve equality.

Minors should be considered differently to adults in terms of degrees of responsibility, the ability to consider consequences of their actions etc. Regardless of colour. If there is inequality in the system, the ideal fix is the raising of standards to a acceptable level, not the dragging everyone down to lowest common denominator

monkeyboy wrote:Wouldn't it be better to campaign for better treatment of black people,minors included within a justice system, to reach parity with other members of the community than lower standards all around?
What you appeared to be insisting on was the same piss poor standards applied all around to achieve equality.

Minors should be considered differently to adults in terms of degrees of responsibility, the ability to consider consequences of their actions etc. Regardless of colour. If there is inequality in the system, the ideal fix is the raising of standards to a acceptable level, not the dragging everyone down to lowest common denominator

Yeah, campaigning has been going well for the last few centuries hasn't it and now it's going backwards. Maybe having the "pisspoor standards" applied to everyone it might actually bring about changes?

If everyone has the same standards, that's equality though. If your standards as a white person need to drop to those being mistreated then what? What's the problem? Too much of a coward to be treated the same as everyone else? Enjoying white privilege too much? These are the questions to ask aren't they? I'm Spartacus?

Teague wrote:

monkeyboy wrote:Wouldn't it be better to campaign for better treatment of black people,minors included within a justice system, to reach parity with other members of the community than lower standards all around?
What you appeared to be insisting on was the same piss poor standards applied all around to achieve equality.

Minors should be considered differently to adults in terms of degrees of responsibility, the ability to consider consequences of their actions etc. Regardless of colour. If there is inequality in the system, the ideal fix is the raising of standards to a acceptable level, not the dragging everyone down to lowest common denominator

Yeah, campaigning has been going well for the last few centuries hasn't it and now it's going backwards. Maybe having the "pisspoor standards" applied to everyone it might actually bring about changes?

If everyone has the same standards, that's equality though. If your standards as a white person need to drop to those being mistreated then what? What's the problem? Too much of a coward to be treated the same as everyone else? Enjoying white privilege too much? These are the questions to ask aren't they? I'm Spartacus?

Ya know what? I think we should just lynch all the white kids in the neighborhood. Really show white America what it's like being black in New Hampshire.

Maybe that would make Teague happy.

It may (or may not) be better than being black in Alabama, but New Hampshire was the last state to acknowledge Martin Luther King Day. There's that curiosity.
http://nhpr.org/post/nhs-martin-luther- ... t#stream/0

Teague wrote:Being that you're not that intelligent you would of course read into it like that. I can't help that you're a moron though, can I. So we should should leave things the same then and just let the blacks suffer unjust treatment because if it was a few black teenages that did that to a white 8 years old blond girl I can guess what would happen because black kids are someone different from white kids.

There is literally nothing I (or anyone else who's called out your dumbfuck posts) have said that indicates this is our position. I've made it clear I want fair, just treatment for everyone of every race. You're the heartless douchebag who wants white kids to recieve unjust treatment because black kids have recieved unjust treatment. You are a vengeful, odious toad, and would be ashamed of yourself if you had any moral character at all.

You accuse me of being a coward and can't even stand up for your kinsmen you spineless sack of shit.

...says the guy drooling to inflict unjust treatment of fellow human beings. I lol'd.

(PS. I realise we're breaking the FUA here so please, carry on what you started with the childish namecalling)

The obvious difference being you're just spewing scattershot, uninspired invective, while I'm addressing what the content of your posts actually says about you. Keep screeching "You dumb poo poo head!" though, looks real smart

SafeAsMilk wrote:

Teague wrote:Being that you're not that intelligent you would of course read into it like that. I can't help that you're a moron though, can I. So we should should leave things the same then and just let the blacks suffer unjust treatment because if it was a few black teenages that did that to a white 8 years old blond girl I can guess what would happen because black kids are someone different from white kids.

There is literally nothing I (or anyone else who's called out your dumbfuck posts) have said that indicates this is our position. I've made it clear I want fair, just treatment for everyone of every race. You're the heartless douchebag who wants white kids to recieve unjust treatment because black kids have recieved unjust treatment. You are a vengeful, odious toad, and would be ashamed of yourself if you had any moral character at all.

You accuse me of being a coward and can't even stand up for your kinsmen you spineless sack of shit.

...says the guy drooling to inflict unjust treatment of fellow human beings. I lol'd.

(PS. I realise we're breaking the FUA here so please, carry on what you started with the childish namecalling)

The obvious difference being you're just spewing scattershot, uninspired invective, while I'm addressing what the content of your posts actually says about you. Keep screeching "You dumb poo poo head!" though, looks real smart

Says a guy that still hasn't understaood what's going on and the one that started with the namecalling. So well done, have a gold star. I already asked you why black kids should just suffer and pointed out there's no equality - you obfuscated with the drivvel above as you have no answer. You don't even get what we're arguing about, do you, just as usual. You open your big mouth and say a load of crap but don't really know what's being discussed then throw out some accusations that your acolyte's cream their knickers over.