I see twistor59 is here. Well your physics is probably better than mine. Have you ever seen a clear dipole configuration in natural systems where electromagnetism was not present ?

Brain man wrote:I see twistor59 is here. Well your physics is probably better than mine. Have you ever seen a clear dipole configuration in natural systems where electromagnetism was not present ?

What 'clear dipole configuration'? You've just repeated what you said was an erroneous criticism, i.e. it looks like one.

Spearthrower wrote:

Brain man wrote:I see twistor59 is here. Well your physics is probably better than mine. Have you ever seen a clear dipole configuration in natural systems where electromagnetism was not present ?

What 'clear dipole configuration'? You've just repeated what you said was an erroneous criticism, i.e. it looks like one.

The one you are referring to. i.e. How the cortex dissection has a similar structure to a magnetic dipole every way its get cut up of course... What else.. isnt that the hubub about this whole idea in the first place.

I guess i am just more advanced...in my mental capabilities

Uh oh i feel an EE type thread starting to mysteriously expand.

Look somebody kill this theory please. I will get into trouble from other commitments if i start getting interested into this one.

Brain man wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Brain man wrote:I see twistor59 is here. Well your physics is probably better than mine. Have you ever seen a clear dipole configuration in natural systems where electromagnetism was not present ?

What 'clear dipole configuration'? You've just repeated what you said was an erroneous criticism, i.e. it looks like one.

The one you are referring to. i.e. How the cortex dissection has a similar structure to a magnetic dipole every way its get cut up of course... What else.. isnt that the hubub about this whole idea in the first place.

You don't find that 'cutting it up' part to be problematic?

You could cut up the brain to look like a camel humping a helicopter, it doesn't mean there's an analogous functionality.

Brain man wrote:I guess i am just more advanced...in my mental capabilities

You might have mentioned that one or two, or in fact several times before. If it makes you feel better to state your superiority, go ahead!

Brain man wrote:I see twistor59 is here. Well your physics is probably better than mine. Have you ever seen a clear dipole configuration in natural systems where electromagnetism was not present ?

Not entirely sure what you mean by "clear dipole config" ?

twistor59 wrote:

Brain man wrote:I see twistor59 is here. Well your physics is probably better than mine. Have you ever seen a clear dipole configuration in natural systems where electromagnetism was not present ?

Not entirely sure what you mean by "clear dipole config" ?

Read: looks like it

You don't find that 'cutting it up' part to be problematic?

You could cut up the brain to look like a camel humping a helicopter, it doesn't mean there's an analogous functionality.

Yes but everybody with basic neuroscience knows there isnt much to the cortex structure. There is the fold, the corpus callosum, longitudinal fissure (you know the big hatchet split down the middle of the noggin) and the columns and that is all this work addresses..

twistor59 is back. You can do it man...Dont let my brain think its a dipole...have some SST humanity

I am sure i have seen your physics skills do a good job on this type of material elsewhere.

Brain man wrote:
yes it is kind of a strange co-incidence that isnt it...

and ST is as well..

the strangeness continues ...

In fact i will make a magical prediction...

the antics on this forum are going to get stranger and weirder in the coming weeks. Only downside is i might not even be allowed to enjoy the final result..

ah well ..

Just noticed that you edited this after I replied.

Predictions require specificity. What do you mean by your statement? And why should you not be here to 'enjoy the final result'? Result of what, we might ask while we're at it!

Brain man wrote:

You don't find that 'cutting it up' part to be problematic?

You could cut up the brain to look like a camel humping a helicopter, it doesn't mean there's an analogous functionality.

Yes but everybody with basic neuroscience knows there isnt much to the cortex structure. There is the fold, the corpus callosum, longitudinal fissure (you know the big hatchet split down the middle of the noggin) and the columns and that is all this work addresses..

twistor59 is back. You can do it man...Dont let my brain think its a dipole...have some SST humanity

I am sure i have seen your physics skills do a good job on this type of material elsewhere.

I'm afraid I haven't a clue how nerves work, so all I can do is chip in with the odd puerile comment

twistor59 wrote:

Brain man wrote:I see twistor59 is here. Well your physics is probably better than mine. Have you ever seen a clear dipole configuration in natural systems where electromagnetism was not present ?

Not entirely sure what you mean by "clear dipole config" ?

this



its bloody mental. I never saw a dissection like that, and i never saw a dipole configuration where there was not electromagnetism behind it AND the brain is electromagnetic AND there is magnetic models for the cortex in neurodevelopment AND the authors "claim" the images arose later on from a data driven project..

So its strange as truck !! All we know in neuroscience says cortical computation is incredibly hard to figure. Something simple like a dipole... How can a dipole be an information processor ?

Brain man wrote:

You don't find that 'cutting it up' part to be problematic?

You could cut up the brain to look like a camel humping a helicopter, it doesn't mean there's an analogous functionality.

Yes but everybody with basic neuroscience knows there isnt much to the cortex structure. There is the fold, the corpus callosum, longitudinal fissure (you know the big hatchet split down the middle of the noggin) and the columns and that is all this work addresses..

While I said I didn't profess an expertise on neuroscience, I have a passing familiarity with human anatomy.

You typed words, but they didn't actually have any bearing on my question.

Brain man wrote:twistor59 is back. You can do it man...Dont let my brain think its a dipole...have some SST humanity

Your previous argument regarding SST would be that he should let you retain a belief, no matter how foolish, because to rob you of it would be murder.

Consistency, not to be used here, apparently.

Brain man wrote: I am sure i have seen your physics skills do a good job on this type of material elsewhere.

Are you sure you're not just being unnecessarily humble? I mean, you're already an expert in so many areas, physics is surely something you could pick up from reading while on the bog?

Spearthrower wrote:

Brain man wrote:
yes it is kind of a strange co-incidence that isnt it...

and ST is as well..

the strangeness continues ...

In fact i will make a magical prediction...

the antics on this forum are going to get stranger and weirder in the coming weeks. Only downside is i might not even be allowed to enjoy the final result..

ah well ..

Just noticed that you edited this after I replied.

Predictions require specificity. What do you mean by your statement? And why should you not be here to 'enjoy the final result'? Result of what, we might ask while we're at it!

now that would be telling ,,,,suffice to say my maniacal analytical brain is growing with confidence and when that happens... mayhem is the usual product, but its a bit random. I could end up in the pub or hassling people for change on the street.

Are you sure you're not just being unnecessarily humble? I mean, you're already an expert in so many areas, physics is surely something you could pick up from reading while on the bog?

You might just be correct seeing as I just figured out how to put multiple replies from the same poster into one post.

What next..

I have to say that this thread is pure awesome. It's ranks as one of the best threads I've seen on this site.

Why'd Brain Man get suspended ?

It seems Brain man's prophecy was correct, even if self-fulfilling.

Spearthrower wrote:It seems Brain man's prophecy was correct, even if self-fulfilling.

Ah right. I see what you mean....

Very interesting!!!
(Someone asked for an example of a dipole occuring naturally)!!

After having a read of all the comments regarding this topic I decided to register just so I could upload a pic of a naturally* occurring dipole ! O.K., probably not the best example and totally unrelated to anything 'neuro', however, I feel compelled to highlight that it doesn't necessarily require an electrodynamic/electromagnetic enviroment/medium/system in order to create, (or interact with), a dipole !

*When I say 'naturally', I'm referring to the process of molecular characteristics of certain plastic(s) when undergoing stress/torsion/breakage which results in an optical effect of lines of bi-refringence creating a visible dipole along the 'line' of a crack on a piece of plastic!!! Very simplistic and totally off-topic!, however, I'm only pointing out that it isn't always necessarily an electromagnetic field which can be attributed to either the creation or interaction of/with a dipole !!!

(Even though it took an external influence to BREAK the plastic, the field 'lines' are always going to be visible/evident dependant on the molecular characteristics of the material). . .



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Cheers !

NLMTECH,

Welcome aboard! Oh please continue to join in the fun, as we have an abundance of other empty assertions those like you may destroy.

Excellent photo, BTW.

RS

Thanks theropod ! Admittedly, I'm a bit of a natural-born skeptic ! (but I'll try and keep my keyboard at arms length......