sandinista wrote:"And the answer lies Between the good and bad" -- Dio
MacIver wrote:Actually it is. Evidence based inquiry is pretty darn black and white.
for some things yes. For others, not so much. Consciousness, animal "intelligence", archeological "evidence" is often based on assumptions but called evidence. Evidence can also be read differently, or be straight up biased. The scientific method is good for a lot of inquires but not for all.
The "alternatives" to science don't work at all. We have atleast 3000 years worth of evidence for this.
Really, at this stage one wonder why you people still bother entertaining the idea of the supernatural, the soul and other sorts of immaterial woo. What have these ideas explained so far? For how many observed phenomena have SUPERNATURE, the Occult, souls, demons, ghosts and what have you, actually turned out to be the real explanation? Care to go down the list?
Any kind of weather phenomena, whether rain, drought, wind, storms, lightning, clouds etc. ? How do they work, what is their cause, their constituents, their nature? Nope, none,
all natural,
all physical.
How about diseases? Plagues, infections, seizures? Fever halluscinations? What is fever actually? Hmm, bacteria, viruses, developmental issues, mutations causing cancers, bad diets, blood clots etc. etc.
All natural, all physical. You've got
nothing here either.
Where do all the species come from? Oh shit, evolution baby! What are living organisms made of? How do they work? Why does the sun burn? The eye work?
Where does the sun
come from, how old is it? The earth itself, the moon, the stars, mountains, oceans, deserts, every fucking thing you see around you? The day and night cycle? Why does it get dark at night? Where does the sun go? Where do these things come from? Why is the sky blue and the grass green? Why does the sky get red at sunset? What is light?
Millions upon millions of entities, processes, events and phenomena. All natural, all physical.
Still nothing supernatural.
Nothing. At this stage we've been through thousands of years of investigations of nature and millions of phenomena and entities, still no evidence of the supernatural,
still only "mundane" materialistic explanations. Physics,
for the n'th millionth time. To any rational thinking person, a pattern should emerge in their mind here. Why keep entertaining this
constantly losing, constantly proven false idea that the supernatural is behind something yet not explained? What is it that KEEPS you idiots coming back to that stupid idea? You've got NOTHING in support of it but elaborate verbal and rethorical devices.
Every fucking time something new happens, upon closer inspection, it's just
more physics and more chemistry. Why do you STILL believe in this ancient nonsense? How many countless of millions of arguments from ignorance must be continously destroyed for you to just fucking let it go? It's RIDICULOUS.
Yes, I'm sure you think I'm that arrogant, know-it-all empiricist who thinks he knows everything and claims to know that there's no supernatural things and no gods and no ghosts and bla bla bla. Except I don't claim to know this, but
I simply get the pattern. There's no longer any use in keeping up this nonsensical hope that science will discover a life after you die. The score is millions to 0, litterally.
Nature >
1000000Supernature
0.
Zero. Squat, nil, NUL, intet, vakum. It has explained NOTHING so far.
And nature just keeps scoring all the time.
All you've got is
mere concievable possibility. But why actually believe it, why expect it, why waste time on it after
at least 3 fucking millenia of failures? It's fucking DENIAL, it's all it is.
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