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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#741  Postby Macdoc » Jun 24, 2020 2:53 pm

I detest the columnist writing this but the scientist and the science behind it seems sound even if the claim is rather over the top ....

This U of T scientist says he’s invented a ‘cure’ for COVID-19. Will patients ever see it?


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But when Sachdev Sidhu talks about what his team has accomplished in their lab at the University of Toronto’s Donnelly Centre for Cellular and Biomolecular Research, the words are entirely his own. And they stun.

A cure. For the coronavirus. For SARS-CoV-2. For the COVID-19 disease that has killed upwards of 320,000 people around the planet.

A knockout punch.

“Yes, I believe ‘cure’ is the proper word,’’ the molecular engineer says, almost blandly. “They would no longer be ill. They would no longer have the virus in their system. That’s a cure.’’
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#742  Postby The_Metatron » Jun 24, 2020 3:34 pm

We at home were just last night discussing how high will be the rewards to the team that figures this out. Almost beyond the dreams of avarice.

I've no objection to that. I think it's an excellent, if not the most excellent motivator driving the efforts to find that cure or treatment.


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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#743  Postby The_Piper » Jun 24, 2020 3:52 pm

The article is behind a paywall, but I notice they put cure in quotes. I'm skeptical. I didn't think viruses could be cured, only treated and vaccinated against.
Certainly fame and riches should come to whatever company/group establishes a potent treatment or safe vaccine. Hucksters exist everywhere though.
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#744  Postby NineBerry » Jun 24, 2020 4:08 pm

You can read about it here:

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/ ... utralizing

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.4953147

It's mostly artificial antibodies that would work the same way that antibodies produced by the immune system of the patient would work.
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#745  Postby minininja » Jun 24, 2020 4:28 pm

I imagine it's still going to be months before anything like that can start to be rolled out though. Especially where treatments or vaccines are based on newer technologies, considering that they might need to be given to most of the population of the world within a relatively short time frame, they've first got to be very sure they're safe.
[Disclaimer - if this is comes across like I think I know what I'm talking about, I want to make it clear that I don't. I'm just trying to get my thoughts down]
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#746  Postby Macdoc » Jul 03, 2020 12:55 pm

Especially where treatments or vaccines are based on newer technologies, considering that they might need to be given to most of the population of the world within a relatively short time frame, they've first got to be very sure they're safe.


Treatments versus vaccines are handled very differently in terms of timelines. A vaccine has way more hoops to jump through. Given the seriousness of the pandemic an effective treatment will be fast tracked if human trials show a significant result. There are a lot of resources being applied worldwide ....to both vaccine and treatment. Antibody treatments have a successful history but artificial ? :popcorn:
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#747  Postby Macdoc » Jul 05, 2020 2:49 am

WORLD NEWSJULY 4, 2020 / 1:55 PM / UPDATED 4 HOURS AGO
WHO halts hydroxychloroquine, HIV drugs in COVID trials after failure to reduce death


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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#748  Postby Hermit » Jul 05, 2020 3:25 am

Macdoc wrote:
WORLD NEWSJULY 4, 2020 / 1:55 PM / UPDATED 4 HOURS AGO
WHO halts hydroxychloroquine, HIV drugs in COVID trials after failure to reduce death


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN2450OJ

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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#749  Postby Macdoc » Jul 07, 2020 4:36 pm

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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#750  Postby Macdoc » Jul 07, 2020 4:42 pm

Very fucking fast into Phase 3 ....serious home run if it succeeds

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN2481EU :popcorn:
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#751  Postby felltoearth » Jul 07, 2020 7:12 pm

Macdoc wrote:Very fucking fast into Phase 3 ....serious home run if it succeeds

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN2481EU :popcorn:


But the company - which has never produced an approved vaccine or run a large trial - has squabbled with government scientists over the process,


WTF? That’s not TOO concerning now is it?
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#752  Postby Macdoc » Jul 07, 2020 10:37 pm

Not really concerned for stage 3 trials but if it works you can bet they will be bought right quick.
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#753  Postby Mike_L » Jul 08, 2020 8:23 am

When coronavirus robs you of your sense of smell

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"What I miss most is the smell of my son when I kiss him, the smell of my wife's body," says Jean-Michel Maillard.

Anosmia - the loss of one's sense of smell - may be an invisible handicap, but is psychologically difficult to live with and has no real treatment, he says.

And it is the price that an increasing number of people are paying after surviving a brush with the coronavirus, with some facing a seemingly long-term inability to smell.

"Anosmia cuts you off from the smells of life, it's a torture," says Maillard, president of anosmie.org, a French group designed to help sufferers.
If you have the condition you can no longer breathe in the smell of your first morning coffee, smell the cut grass of a freshly mown lawn or even "the reassuring smell of soap on your skin when you're preparing for a meeting", he says.
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"There are dozens of causes of anosmia," he says, including nasal polyps, chronic rhinitis, diabetes, Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.

Now the new coronavirus has been added to that list, says Corre - with the symptom alone allowing a diagnosis of Covid-19 in some cases.

"When people lose their sense of smell and don't get it back, we note a real change in the quality of life and a level of depression that is not insignificant," he adds.
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"According to the first numbers, around 80 percent of patients suffering from Covid-19 recover spontaneously in less than a month and often even faster, in eight to 10 days".

For others, however, it could be that the disease has destroyed their olfactory neurons - the ones that detect smells. The good news is that these neurons, at the back of the nose, are able to regenerate.
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https://www.news24.com/news24/world/news/when-coronavirus-robs-you-of-your-sense-of-smell-20200706
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#754  Postby Mike_L » Jul 08, 2020 12:08 pm

‘Hidden epidemic’ after Covid-19: Scientists sound alarm as strokes, nerve damage reported even in mild and recovering cases

8 Jul, 2020

Neurologists in the UK are warning of a potential “hidden epidemic” of brain disorders after dozens of recovering Covid-19 patients presented with brain inflammation, delirium, nerve damage, and strokes.
The research, published Wednesday in the journal Brain, makes for sobering reading as doctors may be missing signs of potentially fatal brain disorders developing in mild and recovering Covid-19 patients. The appearance and severity of the brain conditions did not necessarily correlate with severe respiratory symptoms associated with Covid-19.

“It’s a concern if some hidden epidemic could occur after Covid where you’re going to see delayed effects on the brain, because there could be subtle effects on the brain and slowly things happen over the coming years, but it’s far too early for us to judge now,” Michael Zandi, a senior author on the study and a consultant at the institute and University College London Hospitals NHS foundation trust, said.

The study looked at 43 UK Covid-19 patients aged 16 to 85, many of whom did not experience any of the respiratory symptoms typically associated with the disease, instead presenting neurological disorders as their primary symptoms.

Of the 43, a dozen patients had inflamed central nervous systems, 10 had brain disease with delirium or psychosis, eight had strokes, and a further eight had peripheral nerve damage in the form of Guillain-Barré syndrome, in which the immune system attacks the nerves causing paralysis.
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Worryingly, doctors noted a rise in a life-threatening condition called acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM): instances rose from just one a month prior to the pandemic to two or three per week in April and May. ADEM is fatal in five percent of cases, and one 59-year-old woman in the patient group studied died from the condition.
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#755  Postby Macdoc » Jul 10, 2020 7:37 pm

Treatment approved in Australia

Coronavirus update: Remdesivir approved as Australia's first COVID-19 treatment only available for severe cases

Posted 4hhours ago, updated 1hhour ago

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-11/ ... s/12445322
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#756  Postby chango369 » Jul 12, 2020 7:22 pm

This was tough reading for sure.

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In seven patients (four female), regardless of anticoagulation status, all autopsies demonstrated platelet-rich thrombi in the pulmonary, hepatic, renal, and cardiac microvasculature. Megakaryocytes were seen in higher than usual numbers in the lungs and heart. Two cases had thrombi in the large pulmonary arteries, where casts conformed to the anatomic location. Thrombi in the IVC were not found, but the deep leg veins were not dissected.

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Lancet: Megakaryocytes and platelet-fibrin thrombi characterize multi-organ thrombosis at autopsy in COVID-19: A case series

Another paper that discusses COVID-19's coagulopathy and identifies the following key points:

1. SARS-CoV-2 induces robust gene expression and functional changes in platelets.

2. Platelet hyperreactivity may contribute to COVID-19 pathophysiology through increased
platelet-platelet and platelet-leukocyte interactions


Available through link to PDf: Platelet Gene Expression and Function in COVID-19 Patients
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#757  Postby Fallible » Jul 12, 2020 7:47 pm

Eek.
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#758  Postby theropod_V_2.0 » Jul 12, 2020 10:48 pm

Not good. Such systematic degradation is hard to combat for the most healthy. No wonder us old fucks have such a hard time with this virus.

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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#759  Postby The_Piper » Jul 12, 2020 10:56 pm

15,000 new cases reported in Florida today. :(
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Re: 2019-nCoV or COVID-19

#760  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jul 13, 2020 7:46 am

BC's daily cases are up. Its either the result of adjusting to the third phase of our re-opening or were spiking.

Not sure I'm going camping next month. :(
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