There is too much self-contradiction and too many badly phrased statements here, to make any sense out of what the subject if the thread is.
When I read the opening statement:
Not clear where this comes from but I think it deserves a thread! I profoundly disagree!
I thought he was saying that he DISAGREED with the idea that the subject deserves a thread, and so he started one.
After I worked my way past that flipped-over vehicle, I thought maybe the point was that the Threadstarter found the idea that a simple god could create a complex universe was problematic. But trying to make heads or tails of the big thread opening quote is tough, because after a single brief mention of god:
God is not complex.
Interesting. I thought complexity was like a building block of the universe. It looks to me as if religion is in far more trouble than I thought!
the rest of the UNATTRIBUTED quote talks about the author patting himself on the back for some only vaguely described bit of brilliance on his part, having something to do with a very general approach to science.
Since the Threadstarter himself doesn't appear to know for sure what he is trying to talk about, I'd like to ask him to start over, and specify something.
Here's my guess: Clive remembers reading somewhere that some theists claim that god isn't complex, and Clive takes issue with that, on the grounds that he doesn't think that a simple god concept can answer all questions about a complex universe.
That doesn't sound to me to be worth arguing about (we have lots of complex systems in the real world, which are made from simple building blocks) to begin with, and it certainly doesn't match up with anything I've ever heard any Theists pounding on a bout. The closest I can guess to what Clive MIGHT have read that set him off, and which DOES make sense in it's way, is the notion that believers don't themselves have to carry a complicated idea of their god around and wrestle with it all the time. That idea is as old as such things get, and boils down to priests telling followers "stop sweating the details. God is simple: pray to it and do what I tell you when I tell you, and everything will be fine."
The thread is already starting to grow hair, bringing in deep stuff about Complexity Theory and other stuff that I don't think has anything to do with this. More than anything else, until Clive can specify exactly what it is that he is concerned about, there's nothing to talk about.
What I understand the quote in the OP is stating is that the universe and everything in it - including us - are derived from very simple rules - no gods anywhere.
Sorry Clive, I don't see anything of the kind in your opening post quote. Plus it seems to be a quote within a quote. Someone who quoted a passage by a third person, about how clever they were to use computer theory to simplify all Science Mathematics, exclaims before quoting the self-adulation, that they think religion is in trouble.
So my simple question is... What in the WORLD are you going on about here?
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