If the solar system is "fine tuned", then why were the other planets created by the "fine-tuner"? If Earth was all that was needed, then the other planets just used up time better used to plant fossils or something. It isn't as if they fill any function, and they aren't even mentioned in the Bible (showing what the "inspired words of God" are worth as a treatise on astronomy). Any astro-pologist around?

God works in mysterious ways...

Easy one. God put them there to test our faith!

The other planets helped clear the solar system of asteroids much faster than earth could do working at it alone.

amused wrote:The other planets helped clear the solar system of asteroids much faster than earth could do working at it alone.

But why would Gawd create the asteroids in the first place? And wouldn't their existence void any claims of "fine-tuning"?

He got bored, after fiddling with earth and humanity he needed a new toy, we were just WAY too high maintenance so he made a lot of other worlds without this pesky needy annoying life thing.

amused wrote:The other planets helped clear the solar system of asteroids much faster than earth could do working at it alone.

If I remember rightly, Jupiter actually throws the occasional asteroid our way. I think it was on Brian Cox's recent show, or something similar.

I would have also expected the earth to have a more circular orbit and no tilt so that sunlight is received in a more stable manner. He could have also made the sun more stable as well instead of leaving it to oscillate its output.

Gawd originally made one gigantic planet. But flushed with his success, he had a few too many beers and accidentally dropped the solar system, smashing the Earth into many pieces, some of which became the other planets and the rest of the shrapnel became asteroids. He's been pissed off about it ever since, which explains a lot of the Old Testamant.

Maybe 'fine tuning' is actually 'coarse tuning' to the degree that it's good enough. Our own DNA is the result of a massive kludge, why would the 'DNA' of the universe be any different? Seems to be the way things work around here. Good enough is good enough.

Maybe there are fairies at the bottom of the garden too!

Go and spot the man made rock.

Clearly God fine-tuned the atmosphere for (Most) birds to fly in



I mean its simply too much of a coincidence that the atmosphere is perfectly suited to (Most) birds being able to fly. As for those that can't I imagine that they had a taste for apples like those two idiots who God put in Eden.

/Sarcasm off

I think this puts the whole fine-tuning arguement into perspective. The solar system and wider universe isn't fine-tuned for life anymore than the atmosphere was fined-tuned for bird flight. Life arose how it could in the solar system and presumably in the wider universe, whilst birds evolved to fly in the atmosphere.

Varangian wrote:If the solar system is "fine tuned", then why were the other planets created by the "fine-tuner"? If Earth was all that was needed, then the other planets just used up time better used to plant fossils or something. It isn't as if they fill any function, and they aren't even mentioned in the Bible (showing what the "inspired words of God" are worth as a treatise on astronomy). Any astro-pologist around?

This is an argument from personal incredulity.

So is yours for Evolution.

Atheistoclast wrote:

Varangian wrote:If the solar system is "fine tuned", then why were the other planets created by the "fine-tuner"? If Earth was all that was needed, then the other planets just used up time better used to plant fossils or something. It isn't as if they fill any function, and they aren't even mentioned in the Bible (showing what the "inspired words of God" are worth as a treatise on astronomy). Any astro-pologist around?

This is an argument from personal incredulity.

Care to answer the question, or are you just trolling?

Varangian wrote:

Atheistoclast wrote:

Varangian wrote:If the solar system is "fine tuned", then why were the other planets created by the "fine-tuner"? If Earth was all that was needed, then the other planets just used up time better used to plant fossils or something. It isn't as if they fill any function, and they aren't even mentioned in the Bible (showing what the "inspired words of God" are worth as a treatise on astronomy). Any astro-pologist around?

This is an argument from personal incredulity.

Care to answer the question, or are you just trolling?

It is. Just because you cannot divine the mind of the Creator does not mean that there is no purpose for those planets where there exists no life. Is there any function in painting an abstract picture other than to express oneself? Why does creation need any more of a reason than art?

Varangian wrote:If the solar system is "fine tuned", then why were the other planets created by the "fine-tuner"? If Earth was all that was needed, then the other planets just used up time better used to plant fossils or something. It isn't as if they fill any function, and they aren't even mentioned in the Bible (showing what the "inspired words of God" are worth as a treatise on astronomy). Any astro-pologist around?

Simple. The planets are his gift to humans. They are something pretty at which to look.

Atheistoclast wrote:

Varangian wrote:If the solar system is "fine tuned", then why were the other planets created by the "fine-tuner"? If Earth was all that was needed, then the other planets just used up time better used to plant fossils or something. It isn't as if they fill any function, and they aren't even mentioned in the Bible (showing what the "inspired words of God" are worth as a treatise on astronomy). Any astro-pologist around?

This is an argument from personal incredulity.

Technically yes it is because he's saying that he can't see any reason for God to have made all the other planets and suchlike but all this is somewhat undermined by God being a figment of your imagination. All you're doing is withdrawing into the nonsense that God is unknowable and therefore unquestionable.

I think I'll stick with Occam's Razor thanks very much Atheistoclast.

Atheistoclast wrote:

Varangian wrote:

Atheistoclast wrote:

Varangian wrote:If the solar system is "fine tuned", then why were the other planets created by the "fine-tuner"? If Earth was all that was needed, then the other planets just used up time better used to plant fossils or something. It isn't as if they fill any function, and they aren't even mentioned in the Bible (showing what the "inspired words of God" are worth as a treatise on astronomy). Any astro-pologist around?

This is an argument from personal incredulity.

Care to answer the question, or are you just trolling?

It is. Just because you cannot divine the mind of the Creator does not mean that there is no purpose for those planets where there exists no life. Is there any function in painting an abstract picture other than to express oneself? Why does creation need any more of a reason than art?

That was a shit answer, and you know it.