Globe wrote:Spanking in anger teaches children that it's OK to lash out violently.
Spanking in a cool, calculated way teaches children that deliberate violence and revenge is OK.
Where does revenge come into it?
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Globe wrote:Spanking in anger teaches children that it's OK to lash out violently.
Spanking in a cool, calculated way teaches children that deliberate violence and revenge is OK.
Warren Dew wrote:Globe wrote:Spanking in anger teaches children that it's OK to lash out violently.
Spanking in a cool, calculated way teaches children that deliberate violence and revenge is OK.
Where does revenge come into it?
Warren Dew wrote:Globe wrote:Spanking in anger teaches children that it's OK to lash out violently.
Spanking in a cool, calculated way teaches children that deliberate violence and revenge is OK.
Where does revenge come into it?
thaesofereode wrote:I know this won't go over very well, but (again) from the kid's point of view (who, after all, is the person the adult is trying to "teach a lesson to" or "discipline"), where does revenge NOT come into it?
Mac_Guffin wrote:The mention of revenge may be redundant, but Globe makes a good point.
stijndeloose wrote: A wise decision that anyone can make: if you feel tempted to attack a RatSkep member, take a break.
starr wrote:I've got two girls 5 and almost 4. I've never spanked either of them and I never intend to. I don't think there is ever a good reason to spank a child.
starr wrote:I've got two girls 5 and almost 4. I've never spanked either of them and I never intend to. I don't think there is ever a good reason to spank a child.
Globe wrote:Spanking is not OK no matter what.
It's the actions of a defeated parent.
My son is now 19, and I have hit him ONCE in his life. And that was not as a punishment, but the traditional "slap in the face" to bring him out of a hysterical state where he was a danger to himself.
If it was called for I showed my displeasure, or even anger, in other ways. And that has worked as a charm, even though he is harder to reach than normal children.
I don't know anyone who use spanking, or even consider spanking. My brother and I were never spanked.
Spanking is banned by law here, and has been for decades. But we don't have more misbehaved children because of that.
epepke wrote:Globe wrote:Spanking is not OK no matter what.
It's the actions of a defeated parent.
My son is now 19, and I have hit him ONCE in his life. And that was not as a punishment, but the traditional "slap in the face" to bring him out of a hysterical state where he was a danger to himself.
If it was called for I showed my displeasure, or even anger, in other ways. And that has worked as a charm, even though he is harder to reach than normal children.
I don't know anyone who use spanking, or even consider spanking. My brother and I were never spanked.
Spanking is banned by law here, and has been for decades. But we don't have more misbehaved children because of that.
Gah, so much posturing in this thread.
While I have seen statements that it is never appropriate to spank a child (which I can agree with), whether intentionally or not, the OP did not mention "child."
I'm willing to give good odds that at least 1 in 5 people in this thread engage in consensual, adult spanking on a regular basis for fun. Since so many people here are from the UK, where it is possible to obtain Swish! magazine pretty much everywhere civilized, and was for two decades before pornography became legal, the number may be much higher.
Globe wrote:Spanking is not OK no matter what.
It's the actions of a defeated parent.
My son is now 19, and I have hit him ONCE in his life. And that was not as a punishment, but the traditional "slap in the face" to bring him out of a hysterical state where he was a danger to himself.
Warren Dew wrote:Globe wrote:Spanking is not OK no matter what.
It's the actions of a defeated parent.
My son is now 19, and I have hit him ONCE in his life. And that was not as a punishment, but the traditional "slap in the face" to bring him out of a hysterical state where he was a danger to himself.
Sounds like the actions of a defeated parent, to me.
Globe wrote:This is a section called "Parenting" so it's pretty obvious, to most, that any spanking discussed in here, is spanking of children.
Consensual spanking between adults is light-years away from spanking children. And any discussion concerning that would probably go better in "Social Sciences & Humanities".
Mantisdreamz wrote:Even though I wouldn't spank a child, I find it a bit strange that it is forbidden by law...
epepke wrote:Globe wrote:This is a section called "Parenting" so it's pretty obvious, to most, that any spanking discussed in here, is spanking of children.
Actually, it's Parenting and Education.
Consensual spanking between adults is light-years away from spanking children. And any discussion concerning that would probably go better in "Social Sciences & Humanities".
OK. Is it? Is it so clear? Does every country on the planet have some sort of iron gate that automatically slams down at a particular time and separates the concepts so that they are so fucking clearly light-years apart?
I know a girl who started doing spanking for fun with her boyfriend when she was about 15. Since you're so smart, tell me what to make of that, based on a single word in a section. Is that "light-years away" from childhood spanking, or is it closer?
And now for something you probably don't want to think about. With respect to parents who do spank children "punitively," is there a possible sexual connection with the same underlying properties that also affect people who do BDSM, including spanking, discipline, and age play?
I'm sure you can come up with a one-word answer that will make everything clear.
starr wrote:I've got two girls 5 and almost 4. I've never spanked either of them and I never intend to. I don't think there is ever a good reason to spank a child.
Mr.Samsa wrote:So the law was changed so that no physical assault of children is legal (whether it be major assault where a child is hospitalised, or minor assault where a red mark is left etc). However, this does not mean that spanking your children will get you thrown into prison or arrested. The police that arrive on the scene assess the situation and decide whether the child is healthy and uninjured (in which case they leave with no other consequences), or if they find a battered child then they take the abuser away and they have no way of escaping criminal charges.
Globe wrote:My point was that ANY parent can be put in a situation where a smack is called for or even needed, but that it has no place in the day to day raising of children.
Warren Dew wrote:Globe wrote:My point was that ANY parent can be put in a situation where a smack is called for or even needed, but that it has no place in the day to day raising of children.
That appears to be a straw man. I haven't seen anyone advocate using it on a day to day basis.
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