Marijuana appreciation/education/information thread

[HelenBromberg]

Anybody have any experience with a sublingual ROA?

[Adco]

Just dropping in to say high...

[fluttermoth]

Just dropping in to say high...

Good for you

I'm still 'waiting on the man'

[tuco]

Anybody have any experience with a sublingual ROA?

Come again?

[DougC]

B.B.C. - Australian man calls police after father burns drugs

[Adco]

My daughter of 33 recently contracted shingles. She was in a lot of pain and having 2 young boys to look after, was taking a lot of strain. The doc prescribed a range of meds that she said turned her into a mindless zombie. She asked me for a few spliffs as part of a experiment to see if it would alleviate the pain. I gave her a few joints and she reported back that it made the pain disappear immediately and stayed away for many hours. I am so happy for her. I have seen the pain that shingles sufferers endure and it is no picnic.

One for the good guys!

[CdesignProponentsist]

I wish legalization of marijuana in my state would have been a much happier affair. No one doing much celebrating in the shadow looming over us that is Trump.

[The_Piper]

I wish legalization of marijuana in my state would have been a much happier affair. No one doing much celebrating in the shadow looming over us that is Trump.

Hey don't feel too bad, my state's currently at 50.2% yeas and 2-5% of the precincts(depending on which source) still not accounted for on the live tracker. Literally 3087 votes apart. And talk of the opposition wanting a recount before they're done the count count.
Luckily for me I have the medical card, but I know people with approved medical conditions who self medicate with marijuana and can't afford to pay the weed doctor $200-$300 for an appointment and a card. It's not like it's easy for me to spare that money. Who are these 50% of Mainers who would still want grown adults to be arrested for smoking a plant... I'll bet at least a third of them drink a little too much alcohol, and at least half have coveted thy neighbor's wife. About the northern half of Maine, which is quite religious and conservative-minded, voted a majority of no to recreational marijuana. Check out the map if interested-
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/maine-ballot-measure-1-legalize-marijuana

[CdesignProponentsist]

Good luck with that. I guess it would be worse if we had Trump and COULDN'T get high.

[ScholasticSpastic]

I just popped in to say that I hope you get properly motivated when the Republicans decide to enforce Federal law.

[CdesignProponentsist]

I just popped in to say that I hope you get properly motivated when the Republicans decide to enforce Federal law.

I doubt it. I don't think he wants to inflame his gun toting, anti-government, libertarian core with government raids on their state sanctioned industries. Pot is pretty safe at this point. It is probably the only thing that is.

[ScholasticSpastic]

Pot is pretty safe at this point. It is probably the only thing that is.

I felt the same way about Trump getting elected. Good luck with that.

[CdesignProponentsist]

Here's a pretty good analysis of Trump vs states marijuana laws.
http://www.attn.com/stories/12674/what- ... nald-trump

It should also be mentioned that there were attempts against California when California was alone in the legalization movement, and we only had legalized it for medicinal use. They failed miserably. There is a growing and substantial marijuana lobby and 28 states now to contend with. It would be a monumental task with certain negative political gain. It would be a stupid move.

[The_Metatron]

Here's a pretty good analysis of Trump vs states marijuana laws.
http://www.attn.com/stories/12674/what- ... nald-trump

It should also be mentioned that there were attempts against California when California was alone in the legalization movement, and we only had legalized it for medicinal use. They failed miserably. There is a growing and substantial marijuana lobby and 28 states now to contend with. It would be a monumental task with certain negative political gain. It would be a stupid move.

It would be stupid on multiple levels.

But, as recent history shows, never ever underestimate the power of stupid.

[ScholasticSpastic]

Here's a pretty good analysis of Trump vs states marijuana laws.
http://www.attn.com/stories/12674/what- ... nald-trump

It should also be mentioned that there were attempts against California when California was alone in the legalization movement, and we only had legalized it for medicinal use. They failed miserably. There is a growing and substantial marijuana lobby and 28 states now to contend with. It would be a monumental task with certain negative political gain. It would be a stupid move.

Trump doesn't have to do anything. The law is already there, and pressure from Congress, which is majority Republican and generally against legal marijuana, can be sufficient. If Congress were to make a new law or to revise an existing law to place more pressure on the Federal government to enforce prohibition, Trump would be stuck between his party and his Republican supporters and the possibility of pissing off a bunch of stoners. I think he'd choose to go for the former option, and I think the Republicans in Congress are going to do their damndest to walk back the social changes that have been going on for the past decade with or without Trump's initiative. Keep in mind that we didn't just elect Trump on Tuesday. We elected a Republican President over a Republican Congress. They will perceive this as a mandate, despite Trump's loss of the popular vote, and move forward with their version of social reform.

How eager do you think Trump would be to veto a law strengthening the prohibition against marijuana? Because there are a lot of Republicans in Congress that would happily sponsor such a bill.

As of last Tuesday, the tools of Law are entirely in Republican hands. Last time this happened, the results were spectacularly bad. What's worse than a bull in a china shop? Turns out it's an elephant.

But we'll see. Smoke it if you've got it.

[The_Piper]

I just popped in to say that I hope you get properly motivated when the Republicans decide to enforce Federal law.

Maybe I should decrease the marijuana use, and max out on the Trazodone, Lyrica, and Nortryptilline. Because it's really easy to get motivated on those drugs, let alone take a shit or stop my hands from shaking. Maybe my doctor can put me on oxycontin instead. Whiskey helps with pain.
If you don't think that it's a valid medication for chronic pain (which it is), you could think of the people who need it to hold down a meal or to limit their seizures, etc.
Federal law prohibits the use of cannabis for any purpose. That law sucks, and is bordering on inhumane at this point, when serious medical conditions are concerned.
Putting all of that aside, I think it's foolish to keep adults from using it when they can legally drink themselves to death. Or buy dangerous supplements. Or ride a motorcycle. etc.

I don't think it's stoners who made the democrats lose the election. At least not in those states voting for medical and recreation marijuana. Many of them surely voted Republican and for legalization.

[ScholasticSpastic]

I'm not blaming stoners for anything much- though they're at least as likely to have been a part of the general apathy that helped Trump get elected by his angry supporters as anyone else was. I do hope, however, that when the Republicans begin acting, you know, Republican, we can count on the stoners to get angry and fight back.

Trump won office because his supporters were mad enough to get out and vote and liberals were not, or were still sore because Sanders lost and chose not to vote, or to cast a protest vote. Now we're doing the part where the real world catches up to us and all those otherwise liberal people who didn't vote find themselves losing what's important to them. One of those things might be legal cannabis.

[CdesignProponentsist]

"Stoners" as you like calling them are not just burnt out hippies and their hipster offspring. They cut across all party and economic lines, especially with libertarians including the gun toting, states rights, anti-government type of libertarians who voted for Trump. There are recreational users as well as old conservatives using it to ease their arthritis.

The marijuana demographic is much broader than your generalizations. He would be pissing off everyone for very little to no benefit.

[ScholasticSpastic]

The marijuana demographic is much broader than your generalizations. He would be pissing off everyone for very little to no benefit.

Have you really forgotten the last Republican government so much that you expect this to stop them?

My Mom's a stoner. I'm using it as a shorthand for "people who use marijuana" because it's a 400% reduction in the number of keystrokes I need to make. If you want to be offended, knock yourself out.

[CdesignProponentsist]

The political environment and attitudes towards marijuana has changed demonstrably and drastically since the last Republican government. It was barely plausible for the last Republican government to crack down on a single state. They tried and they failed miserably because of the political shit storm it created for them. The shit storm they would create for themselves this time around would be orders of magnitude greater.

There are 28 states now, more than half the country. They don't have the resources to crack down on over half the country. States have power and the most economically powerful state in the union is now fully legal and ready to fight the feds on it if necessary. The revenue it generates for the states that have legalized is huge. California is expected to take in one billion annually. It isn't going to happen.

I wasn't offended. I'm not that sensitive But the term does imply someone who smokes all the time. I wanted to make sure that you are not just including this small demographic. Most people who smoke smoke casually or medicinally and are just as politically diverse as the general population.