Karljett wrote:
But there's more to human experience than thought. We have intuition. What I'm saying is, just maybe, god does exist, and theists are capable of "perceiving" god, by what some of them call "a knowing" or intuition.
I am assuming that among the many definitions in philosophy and psychology you are using the one mostly identified with spirituality, which is a form of having some form of higher consciousness that does not rely on the senses for gaining knowledge. The existence of this faculty has no evidentiary support except for some paranormal experiments that are in doubt because when repeated by unbiased researches the same results are not found.
A psychological definition of intuition does have evidentiary support. It is that the appearance of intuition is found when quick decisions have to be made and more of a pattern matching operation occurs rather than conscious consideration. Studies have shown that where “intuition” is involved that previous experiences of the same sorts of situations count towards accuracy.
So assuming that people in fact have intuition that does not rely on the senses is not correct.
Karljett wrote:
I mean, if god exists and if god is everywhere, I can't see why it would create a universe only to present itself in an obvious way for everyone to see. Think of it like this. There's life, and we're living it. Why would god pop out to say hello?
But according to many sacred texts, religious books, and people God does pop in to say, “Hello.” He/She/It is very selective about when and to whom though.
I think a better question would be if there is a God why would it hide itself and create all this confusion about what God is and what God wants?
Karljett wrote:
Wouldn't that be a bit like existence saying hello, here I am, I'm real? We know it exists and we (for want of a better term) interact with it or within in. It's obvious that there's logic, and we just get on with it. What if god is exactly like that, with no need to communicate with us as if it is a person, like us?
Same question applies: Why create all this confusion? I know many theologians and clergy will answer that it is part of God’s master plan that people have faith in God, faith is a virtue that will get people into heaven, but with so many peoples’ faith being inspired by others that supposedly have had personal chats with God why isn’t the story the same for everyone. It seems to me that If God exists and reveals itself to a select few with “intuition” that then spread the word then God must be intentionally causing mass confusion.
A better explanation than “intuition” and personal experience would be that people simply invent the god that they want convince themselves that it is real and then talk others into believing in it also.
Karljett wrote:
If "who created god" is an acceptable hypothetical question for an atheist, then it's fair to ask "if there's a god, why would it need to present itself in such a way?"
Questions are not hypothetical, proposed explanations are, and it is fair to ask pretty much any question you want. And by most all definitions of God if there is a God it can do anything it wants, and there would be no need for God to present itself, but if there is no God then it makes more sense to me as to why it does not present itself in some way that verifies it‘s existence to all. It can’t because it not real.
There is nothing so absurd that some philosopher will not say it - Cicero.
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