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Re: this site disgusts me!!
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by mmmcheezy » Mar 10, 2010 4:15 am
And you obviously have no idea how to properly use punctuation. What's your point?
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#202 by BrendenG » Mar 10, 2010 4:16 am
thats all you people ever go after is spelling errors. but no evidence for your atheism. hhmmm.
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#203 by mmmcheezy » Mar 10, 2010 4:17 am
The onus for evidence is on you, sir. Theists are the one making a positive claim. Atheists are simply saying they don't have a belief--due to lack of evidence.
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#204 by Onyx8 » Mar 10, 2010 4:28 am
BrendenG wrote:thats all you people ever go after is spelling errors. but no evidence for your atheism. hhmmm.
Evidence for atheism is easy: i am an atheist, there that wasn't so hard was it?
Now, your turn: evidence for God....
Chirp, chirp, chirp.....
The problem with fantasies is you can't really insist that everyone else believes in yours, the other problem with fantasies is that most believers of fantasies eventually get around to doing exactly that.
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#205 by mmmcheezy » Mar 10, 2010 4:29 am
Is BrendenG seriously 14???
Well, perhaps that explains his debating skills.
Well, perhaps that explains his debating skills.
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#206 by BrendenG » Mar 10, 2010 4:31 am
Saying you are a athiests] does not mean atheistheism is real.
God cannot give us a happiness and a peace apart from himself. Because it is not there. There is no such thing. C.S. Lewis
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#207 by Onyx8 » Mar 10, 2010 4:34 am
mmmcheezy wrote:Is BrendenG seriously 14???
Well, perhaps that explains his debating skills.
Although it doesn't explain his atrocious spelling because in every bible I have ever picked up the spelling is exquisite.
Now don't get all upset here Brenden, I don't really care about your spelling, it doesn't help your argument, but then nothing would.
You really do need to move on from Pascal's wager. Even Pascal accepted that it was not a good argument.
Pick a different one it'll be interesting.
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#208 by mmmcheezy » Mar 10, 2010 4:35 am
Yes it does. If there is an atheist, there is atheism. The only thing atheism is is a lack of belief in gods. If someone declares themself an atheist, atheism exists.
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#209 by BrendenG » Mar 10, 2010 4:53 am
Ok then. Then when i say that the christain god exists therefore he is real. based on what your saying.
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#210 by mmmcheezy » Mar 10, 2010 4:55 am
You and I both know that isn't how the argument works. Based on what I'm saying, theists/theism exists.
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#211 by truthinScience » Mar 10, 2010 6:26 am
Dear lord! My country is in trouble considering the debating skills going on in this forum. Nice work by the way, mmmcheezy. Of course, please don't think I'm trying imply anything about you—I'm not—but this is easy logic: debate 101 stuff here. I mean, how can you possibly go from "you say atheism is real, ergo, my flying space daddy is real". It doesn't take a theoretical physicist to figure out that the correct response is, "therefore, theism could, or at least some belief system subscribing to supernatural forces, exist".
Nonetheless, I salute you, mmmcheezy. Nicely diffused.
Nonetheless, I salute you, mmmcheezy. Nicely diffused.
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#212 by Eduard » Mar 10, 2010 6:39 am
OOh hurray, it's BrendenG! 
For those of us who have forgotten, BrendenG was a lovely chap that posted quality topics on RDF:
Can You (give me actual proof that Jesus does not exist)
Could Richard Dawkins be his undoing?
Could Dawkins be his Undoing? Again?
What would a True Christian Do?
BTW, can anyone check sockpuppet status on the OP and BrendenG?
For those of us who have forgotten, BrendenG was a lovely chap that posted quality topics on RDF:
Can You (give me actual proof that Jesus does not exist)
Could Richard Dawkins be his undoing?
Could Dawkins be his Undoing? Again?
What would a True Christian Do?
BTW, can anyone check sockpuppet status on the OP and BrendenG?
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#213 by Spearthrower » Mar 10, 2010 7:50 am
BrendenG wrote:thats all you people ever go after is spelling errors. but no evidence for your atheism. hhmmm.
How can you have evidence for atheism? Atheism is the lack of belief in gods, what evidence do I need to provide that I lack belief in gods? I am evidence that atheism exists, pleased to meet you.
Now how about moving on from ridiculous positions?
I'm not an atheist; I just don't believe in gods :- that which I don't belong to isn't a group!
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#214 by 95Theses » Mar 10, 2010 8:29 am
Some lovely bits here.
I love how the OP deliberately confuses Poe:
With Po the tellytubby:
And Brenden's logic is so ass backwards as to be hilarious. The way he thinks that 'A Theist exists, therefore God' reminds me of the Neil Gaiman book American Gods. Oh that it were true.
I hate to patronise, but if it's true that brenden is actually 14 and brought up as a fundie this is probably not the best place to start with defending his faith against the heathen atheists, it's going to be like feeding time at the Rancor pit to be honest.
I love how the OP deliberately confuses Poe:
Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing.
With Po the tellytubby:
And Brenden's logic is so ass backwards as to be hilarious. The way he thinks that 'A Theist exists, therefore God' reminds me of the Neil Gaiman book American Gods. Oh that it were true.
I hate to patronise, but if it's true that brenden is actually 14 and brought up as a fundie this is probably not the best place to start with defending his faith against the heathen atheists, it's going to be like feeding time at the Rancor pit to be honest.
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#215 by Onyx8 » Mar 10, 2010 9:14 am
Just in case I would rather be gentle and interested. I mean if he really is fourteen, then he deserves some slack. At least virtual slack.
BrendenG, work with me here, buddy i'm trying to help. ok?
(And when I say slack I know that at least some of you out there know of what I speak. (cough, Sphynxcat, cough)
BrendenG, work with me here, buddy i'm trying to help. ok?
(And when I say slack I know that at least some of you out there know of what I speak. (cough, Sphynxcat, cough)
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Re: this site disgusts me!!
#216 by Melhael » Mar 10, 2010 9:23 am
BrendenG wrote:Ok then. Then when i say that the christain god exists therefore he is real. based on what your saying.
Thankfully, that doesn't work like that and that bible of yours, full of hate speech, was not written by a bearded-old chap with the ethos and the pathos of an angry three-year-old child... but by crazy old Humans, with similar ethoses and pathoses (seriously, though: are pathoses and ethoses actual words?
).The things is: you can claim that christianity exists and you'd be right. That's not the same as claiming the christian god that christianity is about also exists. I'm sure you can grasp the difference between a group of people and the beliefs they share (and that define them), and assign proper levels of reality to both of them.
95Theses wrote:And Brenden's logic is so ass backwards as to be hilarious. The way he thinks that 'A Theist exists, therefore God' reminds me of the Neil Gaiman book American Gods. Oh that it were true.
If it were true, I would immediately wish Apollo into existence!
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#217 by 95Theses » Mar 10, 2010 9:28 am
Melhael wrote:[seriously, though: are pathoses and ethoses actual words?
Yes.
Both are the plural forms of Pathos and Ethos respectively.
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#218 by Melhael » Mar 10, 2010 9:44 am
Thanks! Spell check seemed to think so too but I wasn't too sure. 
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#219 by aspire1670 » Mar 10, 2010 10:46 am
BrendenG wrote:Ok then. Then when i say that the christain god exists therefore he is real. based on what your saying.
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