Proselytizing Muslims knocking on my door

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Re: Proselytizing Muslims knocking on my door

#21  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2012 4:11 pm

I think convert is not right word. Atheism is not a religion.

I would say enlighting people to real facts.
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#22  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2012 4:11 pm

I think convert is not right word. Atheism is not a religion.

I would say enlighting people to real facts.
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#23  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2012 4:11 pm

I think convert is not right word. Atheism is not a religion.

I would say enlighting people to real facts.
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#24  Postby Varangian » Aug 12, 2012 4:13 pm

Upping your post count, eh? ;)
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#25  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 12, 2012 4:16 pm

Still have problems with the forum. Sorry. The submit button does not seem to work properly.
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#26  Postby Oeditor » Aug 12, 2012 10:27 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:I think convert is not right word. Atheism is not a religion.

I would say enlighting people to real facts.
Perhaps for once the Muslims have got the right idea - almost. They say people have "reverted" to Islam because they claim that all humans have always been born Muslims. Absurd, of course, but the term could be applied correctly to people turning back to the absence of religion, the state in which they really were born.
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#27  Postby NineBerry » Aug 12, 2012 10:31 pm

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#28  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 13, 2012 1:38 pm

The default at birth is atheism.
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#29  Postby aban57 » Aug 13, 2012 1:52 pm

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#30  Postby Scot Dutchy » Aug 13, 2012 1:53 pm

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#31  Postby NineBerry » Aug 13, 2012 2:04 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:The default at birth is atheism.


No, the default at birth is not being able to think, speak or understand really anything.
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#32  Postby Blackadder » Aug 13, 2012 2:33 pm

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No, the default at birth is not being able to think, speak or understand really anything.


So Creationist Christian then? :grin:
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#33  Postby Matt_B » Aug 13, 2012 2:38 pm

Blackadder wrote:
NineBerry wrote:

No, the default at birth is not being able to think, speak or understand really anything.


So Creationist Christian then? :grin:


Damn, beat me to it. :grin:

Sadly, they're all too capable of speaking despite the other two impediments.
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#34  Postby Oeditor » Aug 15, 2012 9:36 pm

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Scot Dutchy wrote:The default at birth is atheism.


No, the default at birth is not being able to think, speak or understand really anything.
Nor can they - receptive or otherwise - have been introduced to the fantasy of gods, so - whether capable of belief or not - do not believe in them and so are atheists. Even if very soft atheists. :)
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#35  Postby Onyx8 » Aug 16, 2012 2:30 am

Oeditor wrote:
NineBerry wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:The default at birth is atheism.


No, the default at birth is not being able to think, speak or understand really anything.
Nor can they - receptive or otherwise - have been introduced to the fantasy of gods, so - whether capable of belief or not - do not believe in them and so are atheists. Even if very soft atheists. :)



Soft and tasty atheists...
The problem with fantasies is you can't really insist that everyone else believes in yours, the other problem with fantasies is that most believers of fantasies eventually get around to doing exactly that.
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#36  Postby NineBerry » Aug 16, 2012 9:15 am

Yeah, and dogs are atheists, tooo.
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#37  Postby zulumoose » Aug 16, 2012 9:40 am

NineBerry wrote:
No, the default at birth is not being able to think, speak or understand really anything.


So what are you saying, that the state above is or is not compatible with the holding of theistic beliefs, which is of course the definitive requirement to being anything other than an atheist.
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Re: Proselytizing Muslims knocking on my door

#38  Postby NineBerry » Aug 16, 2012 10:05 am

Dead people aren't atheists. Trees aren't atheists. And little children aren't atheists, either.
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#39  Postby zulumoose » Aug 16, 2012 10:42 am

Dead bodies, trees, and babies, all lack theism, and are therefore a-theistic in terms of their religious position.

You could say that they do not have a theistic stance, that they do not have anything at all to do with religion, and that thinking of them in those terms is ridiculous, and you would be right, but that line of thinking still supports the position that they lack theism, and are therefore not theistic, completely without theism, and therefore atheist.

In the same way, a vacuum cannot hold a septic component, so a vacuum is by nature aseptic, no matter how silly that may sound it remains true.
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#40  Postby patient zero » Aug 16, 2012 2:17 pm

NineBerry wrote:Yeah, and dogs are atheists, tooo.

No wonder mohammed didn't like them.
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