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Re: America's slide into fascism

#281  Postby Tortured_Genius » Dec 20, 2023 3:34 pm

On the bright side they aren't making a secret of going outright full-fascist - so the attack ads pretty much write themselves. There really is no going back now, the Republican party is explicitly authoritarian and anti-democracy.

It would be much more worrying if they pretended not to be outright fascists and only revealed their true colours once they were in power.

Now we've just got to worry about how many of the US population are happy with ceding all their political and legal rights to a group of proven criminals. (Unfortunately there seem to be far, far too many).
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#282  Postby THWOTH » Dec 21, 2023 12:14 am

So it's no longer a slide into fascism - America has slid?

You know what they say though? Fascism is Capitalism's antibodies.
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Re: America's slide into fascism

#283  Postby Seabass » Dec 21, 2023 1:04 am

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Re: America's slide into fascism

#284  Postby Seabass » Dec 23, 2023 2:17 am

Opinion Yes, it’s okay to compare Trump to Hitler. Don’t let me stop you.
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Re: America's slide into fascism

#285  Postby electricwhiteboy » Dec 31, 2023 11:24 am

Tortured_Genius wrote:
Now we've just got to worry about how many of the US population are happy with ceding all their political and legal rights to a group of proven criminals. (Unfortunately there seem to be far, far too many).


The ones who are slightly smarter, but still right leaning, are absolutely of the opinion the Leopards won't eat their face. "Meh, it might be fascism but hey that's not going to have any problem for me as a straight white male."

Even atheists on the Right are completely blasé about Christian Nationalism. Islam is literally their only boogie man, even when the call is clearly coming from inside the house.

Quite what's the sensible answer when people behave politically like kids who just won't learn not to touch the stove until they've burnt the shit out their hand is frankly beyond me. Especially when it's our collective hand that's going to be held over the flame, even if you're across an ocean, because that's how drastically fascism fucks things up if you let it get the slightest toe hold.
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Re: America's slide into fascism

#286  Postby Seabass » Jan 22, 2024 6:03 pm

Trump: Theres a great man in Europe. Viktor Orbán… He’s a very strong man. It’s nice to have a strongman running your country


https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1748882502515667424

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Re: America's slide into fascism

#287  Postby The_Piper » Jan 22, 2024 10:35 pm

Tucker Carlstein made at least 2 trips to visit Orban and have pajama parties with young male prostitutes. :shifty: Ok I made up the pajama party part, but he has gone there at least twice.
Trump has been mentioning Orban in his speeches for months now. He mixed up Orban and Erdogan at least once. :lol:
He says that Hungary doesn't have a problem with immigrants and refugees Like France and Germany, because Orban keeps them out. I don't know anything about Hungary, but that's Trump being his racist, bigoted ol' self. For Trump, that's any given Tuesday...

Here is a link to The Hill, another right wing shithole company, talking about Tuckster's trips. They're saying that the first trip was unauthorized by Fox News. I'd say the odds are 50/50 that that's The Hill carrying water for Fox, and the trip was authorized.
Note: I didn't read the whole article because I don't believe anything coming from The Hill, as a default position. Fucking losers. :shifty:
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Re: America's slide into fascism

#288  Postby Alan C » Jan 26, 2024 7:23 am

Putler must love what's happening in Texarse right now.
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Re: America's slide into fascism

#289  Postby The_Piper » Jan 26, 2024 1:51 pm

They're shitheads, and much much worse. If Lincoln was president the feds would show up with tanks and machine guns. :teef:
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#290  Postby Animavore » Jan 31, 2024 1:02 pm

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Re: America's slide into fascism

#291  Postby Seabass » Feb 08, 2024 9:32 pm


New York vigilantes take down ‘migrant’ on live TV – but he was from the US

As Sean Hannity was interviewing the founder of the Guardian Angels, a New York City-based vigilante group known for targeting immigrants, an off-screen disturbance took place and the camera panned to show group members confronting an unidentified man, pushing him to the sidewalk and placing him in a headlock.

The bizarre incident played out Tuesday night during the primetime segment on Fox News meant to highlight alleged disorder and crime Hannity claimed was caused by asylum seekers arriving in New York City.

Curtis Sliwa, the Guardian Angels founder, proclaimed: “In fact, our guys have just taken down one of the migrant guys on the corner of 42nd and Seventh where all of this has taken place.” Throwing his hands in the air, he added: “They’ve taken over!”

The man is not a “migrant” but rather a New Yorker from the Bronx, police said on Wednesday afternoon. Though Sliwa claimed the man had been caught shoplifting, police provided no evidence to support the allegation.

While the disturbing altercation played out on national television, Hannity blasted Democrats “for the surge of Joe Biden’s unvetted illegals in New York. And that could be because the so-called border czar is a little distracted right now,” alluding to the vice-president, Kamala Harris.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/07/guardian-angels-curtis-sliwa-sean-hannity-fox-news-live-tv
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Re: America's slide into fascism

#292  Postby don't get me started » Feb 10, 2024 12:54 am

Seabass wrote:

New York vigilantes take down ‘migrant’ on live TV – but he was from the US



This brings to mind one of the points in Timothy Snyder's books (I've read many of them, so I forget which one exactly), where he details the emerging signs that a country is on the road to authoritarianism. Specifically, when you start to have the public presence of groups who are (or claim to be) enforcing law and order (or their version of it) and their exact status is kind of unclear.
They are not uniformed and under a chain of command that ultimately derives from official state authorities, but somehow inhabit a grey zone of semi-official, semi-private unclear legitimacy.
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Re: America's slide into fascism

#293  Postby Calilasseia » Feb 10, 2024 4:22 am

Indeed, the USA has had several groups of wannabee sturmabteilung over the past few years, usually composed of the sort of life forms that failed potty training as infants.

A good few of the specimens involved present the appearance of having been the product of a creepily unethical foetal irradiation experiment.
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Re: America's slide into fascism

#294  Postby Alan C » Feb 10, 2024 6:55 am

Probably why that one group insists on wearing masks as well their matching fascist outfits.

Is it the case in Germany that were any group of people to parade about with nazi paraphernalia they'd be summarily escorted into police vans or least get serious questioning?
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Re: America's slide into fascism

#295  Postby The_Piper » Feb 10, 2024 8:26 am

I don't care who y'are, where I grew up you couldn't even get away with wearing one of those hats in third grade during a snowstorm. You'd be stuffed in a locker faster than you could scream "migrant." :lol: I hope the victim sues them and wins big.
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#296  Postby Seabass » Feb 13, 2024 5:32 am

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Re: America's slide into fascism

#297  Postby Seabass » Feb 14, 2024 9:19 pm


Neo-Nazis Swarm Home of New England Governor


Dozens of Neo-Nazis demonstrated outside the home of Massachusetts Gov. Maura Healey (D) on Saturday night, in an intimidating display of hate. Members of the group NSC-131 — which seeks to create a white-only ethnostate in New England — marched Saturday night through the Boston suburb of Arlington, uniformed in khakis, black jackets, face masks, and baseball caps.

The NSC-131 members moved under cover of darkness, co-opting the progressive activist chant, “Whose streets? Our streets!” The neo-Nazis then lined up on the sidewalk across the street from the Healey’s home, which was protected by state troopers. The group’s members lit red traffic flares, and held these aloft with stiff arm Hitler salutes. They unfurled a banner reading: “WE’RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.”

The action by NSC-131 was an in-the-streets response to civil rights charges brought against the group by the state late last year. A 26-page complaint was lodged by Massachusetts Attorney General Andrea Joy Campbell (D) in December. Campbell denounced the group’s efforts to “target and terrorize people across Massachusetts and interfere with their rights,” and insisted the state of Massachusetts is dedicated to “holding this neo-Nazi group and its leaders accountable.”


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/neo-nazi-demonstration-home-healey-massachusetts-governor-1234967010/
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Re: America's slide into fascism

#298  Postby The_Piper » Feb 15, 2024 5:46 am

Hey, Arlington, I used to deliver mail there, for around a year. :doh:
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#299  Postby chango369 » Mar 04, 2024 10:50 pm

I could've fit this Hitchens quote in any number of threads, but since Christofascism in the US is burgeoning, it's going here.

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