Wuffy wrote:I'm glad other posters picked up the slack while I wasn't looking. EVERYTIME this story comes up people focus on apple ignoring all the other major business' using Foxconn as they production centers in China.

People are happy to jump on Apples back about their products because they want to bash apple and ti's followers but hey let's ignore that just about every other major manufacturer goes through.

Apple has made pledges and tired to make things better but all they can do is put pressure on a manufacturer who pretty much won't care because well are they really going to stop doing business with them? And even if they do. They still have every other company till Apple comes back to them.

But let's blame apple and ignore the company running those factories and many others called Foxconn...

Whose customers are:
Acer Inc. (Taiwan)
Amazon.com (United States)
Apple Inc. (United States)
BlackBerry Ltd. (Canada)
Cisco (United States)
Dell (United States)
Google (United States)
Hewlett-Packard (United States)
Microsoft (United States)
Motorola Mobility (United States)
Nintendo (Japan)
Nokia (Finland)
Sony (Japan)
Toshiba (Japan)
Vizio (United States)

Wuffy wrote:
People are happy to jump on Apples back about their products because they want to bash apple and ti's followers but hey let's ignore that just about every other major manufacturer goes through.

Wuffy wrote:Apple has made pledges and tired to make things better but all they can do is put pressure on a manufacturer who pretty much won't care because well are they really going to stop doing business with them? And even if they do. They still have every other company till Apple comes back to them.

Wuffy wrote:I'm glad other posters picked up the slack while I wasn't looking. EVERYTIME this story comes up people focus on apple ignoring all the other major business' using Foxconn as they production centers in China.

People are happy to jump on Apples back about their products because they want to bash apple and ti's followers but hey let's ignore that just about every other major manufacturer goes through.

Apple has made pledges and tired to make things better but all they can do is put pressure on a manufacturer who pretty much won't care because well are they really going to stop doing business with them? And even if they do. They still have every other company till Apple comes back to them.

But let's blame apple and ignore the company running those factories and many others called Foxconn...

Whose customers are:
Acer Inc. (Taiwan)
Amazon.com (United States)
Apple Inc. (United States)
BlackBerry Ltd. (Canada)
Cisco (United States)
Dell (United States)
Google (United States)
Hewlett-Packard (United States)
Microsoft (United States)
Motorola Mobility (United States)
Nintendo (Japan)
Nokia (Finland)
Sony (Japan)
Toshiba (Japan)
Vizio (United States)

Wuffy wrote: apple and ti's followers...

Teague wrote:
So move their factories back to the US and Europe and pay people a decent wage in countries where working conditions are a lot better.

campermon wrote:

Teague wrote:
So move their factories back to the US and Europe and pay people a decent wage in countries where working conditions are a lot better.

Yes.

unfortunately, the only reason us masses can afford our toys is that there are massive workforces available around the planet who are made to work for a pittance.

Scot Dutchy wrote:

campermon wrote:

Teague wrote:
So move their factories back to the US and Europe and pay people a decent wage in countries where working conditions are a lot better.

Yes.

unfortunately, the only reason us masses can afford our toys is that there are massive workforces available around the planet who are made to work for a pittance.

Or companies want to exploit the system for maximal profits.

campermon wrote:Google is my friend; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... d-Air.html

Briton wrote:

Wuffy wrote: apple and ti's followers...

'Followers'?

...They're turning kids into slaves just to make cheaper sneakers.
But what's the real cost?
'Cause the sneakers don't seem that much cheaper.
Why are we still paying so much for sneakers
When you got them made by little slave kids
What are your overheads?...

campermon wrote:

Teague wrote:
So move their factories back to the US and Europe and pay people a decent wage in countries where working conditions are a lot better.

Yes.

unfortunately, the only reason us masses can afford our toys is that there are massive workforces available around the planet who are made to work for a pittance.

Scot Dutchy wrote:

campermon wrote:Google is my friend; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... d-Air.html

Yep and yet Apple users just dont see it. They are just average products at massively marked up prices.

I am quite sure that a factory could be built in a first world country and give a good return.

campermon wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:

campermon wrote:Google is my friend; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... d-Air.html

Yep and yet Apple users just dont see it. They are just average products at massively marked up prices.

I am quite sure that a factory could be built in a first world country and give a good return.

Yup - I found another report that quoted a 42% profit is made on ipads.That's quite a healthy profit margin; I'm sure they could drop it a little in order to pay decent wages. That would be a genius selling point.

campermon wrote:

Teague wrote:
So move their factories back to the US and Europe and pay people a decent wage in countries where working conditions are a lot better.

Yes.

unfortunately, the only reason us masses can afford our toys is that there are massive workforces available around the planet who are made to work for a pittance.

Yup - I found another report that quoted a 42% profit is made on ipads.

Teague wrote:

campermon wrote:

Teague wrote:
So move their factories back to the US and Europe and pay people a decent wage in countries where working conditions are a lot better.

Yes.

unfortunately, the only reason us masses can afford our toys is that there are massive workforces available around the planet who are made to work for a pittance.

Sorry but I'm not buying that bullshit anymore. When you have hundreds of billions in your bank account you're overcharging like a prick.

Yup - I found another report that quoted a 42% profit is made on ipads.

Oh look

campermon wrote:

Teague wrote:

campermon wrote:

Teague wrote:
So move their factories back to the US and Europe and pay people a decent wage in countries where working conditions are a lot better.

Yes.

unfortunately, the only reason us masses can afford our toys is that there are massive workforces available around the planet who are made to work for a pittance.

Sorry but I'm not buying that bullshit anymore. When you have hundreds of billions in your bank account you're overcharging like a prick.

Yup - I found another report that quoted a 42% profit is made on ipads.

Oh look

Yes - they are surely over charging.

But, in general; The good life we lead in the west currently depends upon the exploitation of the poor elsewhere in the world.