Tracer Tong wrote:Of course, given the outcome of the negotiations aren't known, the applicability of ETIAS to British citizens is largely speculation at this point.

Scot Dutchy wrote:

Tracer Tong wrote:Of course, given the outcome of the negotiations aren't known, the applicability of ETIAS to British citizens is largely speculation at this point.

What negotiations?

Scot Dutchy wrote:Of course they will apply to all 3rd counties without exception.

Scot Dutchy wrote:This has nothing to do with Brexit.

Tracer Tong wrote:

Teague wrote:Oh you voted to leave?

Yeah. And what'll really get your goat is that I'd do so again.

Tracer Tong wrote:I answered that question for you a few weeks ago: Because I sail out of Peterhead, buttle for Farage and am an advocate of the Nuneaton Method (Byron will fill you in).

Scot Dutchy wrote:You seem to have great difficulty seeing facts.
The rules are going through the EU Parliament just now and will in place when the UK leaves. They were drawn up before the Brexit referendum. Only if May and co accept the EU demands completely regarding EU citizens would I see any movement on these rules but as the way thing are going there is not going to be a deal.
It is one deal not a load of separate deals. The UK must accept all three demands (how the Irish border question is going to be answered at present there is no way) then agreement must be met on a trade deal based on the four freedoms. This whole package has to be agreed upon by all 27 countries and the EU government. Do you see that happening with that mob in the UK? I dont.

Teague wrote:

Tracer Tong wrote:I answered that question for you a few weeks ago: Because I sail out of Peterhead, buttle for Farage and am an advocate of the Nuneaton Method (Byron will fill you in).

Not particularly helpful and kind of lazy but ok!

Well done brexiter morons, well done!

And we'll have MORE immigrants and MORE cancer now - brilliant!

Scot Dutchy wrote:Especially when googling 'Nuneaton Method' only give job vacancies.

Scot Dutchy wrote:It is always amazing how Brexiteers cant face certain facts. You will be out by 29-3-19. Nothing can change it. It could be extended but requires a majority in the European Council as defined under art 218(3). That is very unlikely.

If you can provide any information to the contrary I would be glad to read it.

Tracer Tong wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:It is always amazing how Brexiteers cant face certain facts. You will be out by 29-3-19. Nothing can change it. It could be extended but requires a majority in the European Council as defined under art 218(3). That is very unlikely.

If you can provide any information to the contrary I would be glad to read it.

So all you've provided is a crass insult, and information I didn't ask for.

Let's try again: you've claimed that the ETIAS scheme will apply to British citizens after Britain leaves the EU. I've asked what information you possess that demonstrates, conclusively, this is the case. If you've not any, just say so, and I can continue to be confident that you're mostly speculating.

Note that I'm not asking when Britain is leaving the EU, or under what conditions its departure could be postponed.

Tracer Tong wrote:

You reap what you sow, I guess.

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Scot Dutchy wrote:

Tracer Tong wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:It is always amazing how Brexiteers cant face certain facts. You will be out by 29-3-19. Nothing can change it. It could be extended but requires a majority in the European Council as defined under art 218(3). That is very unlikely.

If you can provide any information to the contrary I would be glad to read it.

So all you've provided is a crass insult, and information I didn't ask for.

Let's try again: you've claimed that the ETIAS scheme will apply to British citizens after Britain leaves the EU. I've asked what information you possess that demonstrates, conclusively, this is the case. If you've not any, just say so, and I can continue to be confident that you're mostly speculating.

Note that I'm not asking when Britain is leaving the EU, or under what conditions its departure could be postponed.

Cant use simple logic? On leaving the UK will be a third country. The ETIAS scheme affects all third countries so it affects the UK. Simple logic.
Do you see a deal happening? I dont. Or are you thinking that the UK will be treated differently? Although there is no deal ETIAS wont apply? No speculating involved.
Typical Brexiteer. Those days have gone now get used to it.

Teague wrote:

Tracer Tong wrote:

You reap what you sow, I guess.

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You are aware this is a forum, right? This is where you type out things so I see one of two things happening here.

1) You're on a forum but cba to have a conversation even though that's the point of being here.

2) You don't have an argument.

Tracer Tong wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:

Tracer Tong wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:It is always amazing how Brexiteers cant face certain facts. You will be out by 29-3-19. Nothing can change it. It could be extended but requires a majority in the European Council as defined under art 218(3). That is very unlikely.

If you can provide any information to the contrary I would be glad to read it.

So all you've provided is a crass insult, and information I didn't ask for.

Let's try again: you've claimed that the ETIAS scheme will apply to British citizens after Britain leaves the EU. I've asked what information you possess that demonstrates, conclusively, this is the case. If you've not any, just say so, and I can continue to be confident that you're mostly speculating.

Note that I'm not asking when Britain is leaving the EU, or under what conditions its departure could be postponed.

Cant use simple logic? On leaving the UK will be a third country. The ETIAS scheme affects all third countries so it affects the UK. Simple logic.
Do you see a deal happening? I dont. Or are you thinking that the UK will be treated differently? Although there is no deal ETIAS wont apply? No speculating involved.
Typical Brexiteer. Those days have gone now get used to it.

So still more crass insults, and still nothing of what I asked for. As I suspected, you're speculating.

Personally, I don't know whether ETIAS will apply to British citizens once Britain has left the EU. As I say, my crystal ball needs calibrating.

Teague wrote:

Tracer Tong wrote:

You reap what you sow, I guess.

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You are aware this is a forum, right? This is where you type out things so I see one of two things happening here.

1) You're on a forum but cba to have a conversation even though that's the point of being here.

2) You don't have an argument.

I am having a conversation with you: you asked why I voted to leave the EU, and I gave you an answer. You complained that that answer was unhelpful and lazy, and so I've merely pointed out that, given your recent comments, you can hardly expect more.

If someone who takes the issue seriously wants to know why I voted the way I did, naturally they'll receive a more serious answer.