Thommo wrote:As a point of reference, last time the polls looked like those two do, what was Nigel Farage's opinion on whether he could win?

Nigel Farage has said "it looks like Remain will edge it" as polling stations closed across the UK in the EU referendum.

Thommo wrote:So your primary evidence for Nigel Farage's views is 744 people giving up their passport.

Yeah.

As far as the polls (conducted after his comments, so he couldn't even have seen them) go, yeah, there's a chance the referendum would be lost (for the Brexiteers). That doesn't mean Farage believes he would lose, does it? As a point of reference, last time the polls looked like those two do, what was Nigel Farage's opinion on whether he could win?

Exclusive: former Ukip leader will lose £35,500 in total – the amount he paid assistant who is believed to have not been working on EU matters

A cross-party delegation including Labour MPs is visiting Brussels

Scot Dutchy wrote:Here is an updated list of EU negotiations:

OVERVIEW OF FTA AND OTHER TRADE NEGOTIATIONS

OVERVIEW OF ECONOMIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS

Remember this is on top of the already 125 other negotiated FTA's.

The UK has not even started yet.

Scot Dutchy wrote:Here is an updated list of EU negotiations:

OVERVIEW OF FTA AND OTHER TRADE NEGOTIATIONS

Remember this is on top of the already 125 other negotiated FTA's.

The UK has not even started yet.

Scot Dutchy wrote:When they leave they wont have any

Scot Dutchy wrote:
or have you not read art 50 yet.

3. The Treaties shall cease to applyto the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

Scot Dutchy wrote:Art 50(3)

3. The Treaties shall cease to applyto the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

Do you understand? All treaties cease to apply after the leaving date.

Tracer Tong wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:Art 50(3)

3. The Treaties shall cease to applyto the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

Do you understand? All treaties cease to apply after the leaving date.

Yeah: all treaties cease to apply. But we're talking about trade deals between the EU's members and other countries, not the application of EU treaties to its members. So I've no idea what you're getting at.

Scot Dutchy wrote:

Tracer Tong wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:Art 50(3)

3. The Treaties shall cease to applyto the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

Do you understand? All treaties cease to apply after the leaving date.

Yeah: all treaties cease to apply. But we're talking about trade deals between the EU's members and other countries, not the application of EU treaties to its members. So I've no idea what you're getting at.

Countries in the EU do not have bilateral treaties.

Scot Dutchy wrote:Just learn something about the EU will you.

Voters support the idea of holding a second EU referendum by a 16-point margin, according to one of the largest nationwide opinion polls since the Brexit vote.
The ICM survey, conducted as part of a Guardian reporting project, found 47% of people would favour having a final say on Brexit once the terms of the UK’s departure are known, while 34% oppose reopening the question.
Excluding the roughly one-fifth who do not have a view gives a lead of 58% to 42% for a second referendum, showing rising interest in the idea as concern grows over the direction of recent negotiations.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/b ... nt-margin-–-poll/ar-AAvdcxS?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp

Teague wrote:They'd be idiots not to call a 2nd referendum. Do we want to show the world how stupid we are again as if Brexit wasn't bad enough. Now people are actually clued up on the whole thing look how the numbers have swung in an overwhelming majority to now stay in Europe. Even Farage called for a 2nd one so what are we waiting for?