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#161  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 23, 2015 6:29 pm

Animavore wrote:Go to any Irish article. Scroll to comments. Enjoy the bitter tears.

Gimme, gimme. :ask:
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#162  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 23, 2015 6:34 pm

"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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#163  Postby Animavore » May 23, 2015 6:35 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Animavore wrote:Go to any Irish article. Scroll to comments. Enjoy the bitter tears.

Gimme, gimme. :ask:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/re ... 47279.html
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#164  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 23, 2015 6:36 pm

Animavore wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Animavore wrote:Go to any Irish article. Scroll to comments. Enjoy the bitter tears.

Gimme, gimme. :ask:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/re ... 47279.html

:cheers:
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#165  Postby CdesignProponentsist » May 23, 2015 6:46 pm

Well the thread title is a bit misleading now. The results apparently weren't all that divisive.

Good on Ireland! :cheers:
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#166  Postby Paul » May 23, 2015 6:48 pm

Bubalus wrote:Now we have to get NI to join the 21st Century!


What? Get them to skip the 20th completely?
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#167  Postby tuco » May 23, 2015 6:48 pm

If anyone wanted to piss on your parade, anyone could take this pic:

Emmeline wrote:
Animavore wrote:Yup. I'm calling it now. We've won.


Well done Ireland! :clap: :dance: :cheers:

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#168  Postby I'm With Stupid » May 23, 2015 6:59 pm

Paul wrote:
Bubalus wrote:Now we have to get NI to join the 21st Century!


What? Get them to skip the 20th completely?

Never understood this. Just enact a law in the rest of the UK allowing Northern Irish people to come to England/Scotland/Wales for gay marriage and abortions, and deliver a big fuck you to the religious bigots denying people their rights in that country atm.
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#169  Postby Seabass » May 23, 2015 9:13 pm

Scot Dutchy has a preternatural ability to see just about anything in a negative light. I used to think it was annoying, but now I actually find it impressive.

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Re: Ireland's divisive referendum on same-sex marriage

#170  Postby Bubalus » May 23, 2015 9:49 pm

I'm With Stupid wrote:
Paul wrote:
Bubalus wrote:Now we have to get NI to join the 21st Century!


What? Get them to skip the 20th completely?

Never understood this. Just enact a law in the rest of the UK allowing Northern Irish people to come to England/Scotland/Wales for gay marriage and abortions, and deliver a big fuck you to the religious bigots denying people their rights in that country atm.

It's due to devolving power to Stormont, I think?
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#171  Postby ronmcd » May 23, 2015 10:04 pm

Ha. English Education Secretary tweets in support of the Irish vote:
An important day in Ireland. Sends a great message that #equality matters. #equalmarriage


But others point out she ... um ... voted against equal marriage in England & Wales:
The same thing you voted against here in the UK. Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.


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On 5 Feb 2013: Nicky Morgan voted against allowing same sex couples to marry.
On 21 May 2013: Nicky Morgan voted against allowing same sex couples to marry.
On 5 Mar 2014: Nicky Morgan was absent for a vote on Same Sex Marriage — Enabling Courts to Deal with Divorce or Annulment
On 5 Mar 2014: Nicky Morgan was absent for a vote on Make Same Sex Marriage Available to Armed Forces Personnel Outside the United Kingdom
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#172  Postby BooBoo » May 24, 2015 12:15 am

A truly disgraceful decision: the land of saints and scholars has become the land of fairies and puffs. Now, we can expect to see incestuous and poly-amorous couples being given the right to marry. The moral decline of the West continues.
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#173  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 24, 2015 12:19 am

:rofl:
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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#174  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 24, 2015 12:20 am

BooBoo wrote:A truly disgraceful decision: the land of saints and scholars has become the land of fairies and puffs. Now, we can expect to see incestuous and poly-amorous couples being given the right to marry. The moral decline of the West continues.

Didn't know you were a comedian. :lol:
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#175  Postby BooBoo » May 24, 2015 12:21 am

Thomas Eshuis wrote::rofl:


No joke. I forgot to also mention bestial relationships being recognized by the State.

Anyway, 62.1% voted yes with a turnout of 61.5%. This means that only a minority (38.2%) actually turned out to vote yes.
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#176  Postby BooBoo » May 24, 2015 12:25 am

tuco wrote:If anyone wanted to piss on your parade, anyone could take this pic:


Can someone explain to me why homosexual relationships are of "equal" worth with heterosexual ones? One makes biological and social sense whereas the other clearly does not.
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#177  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 24, 2015 12:29 am

BooBoo wrote:
Thomas Eshuis wrote::rofl:


No joke. I forgot to also mention bestial relationships being recognized by the State.

Please demonstrate a direct causal link between allowing SSM and:
1. Bestiality.
2. Incest.
3. Polygamy.
After that, please explain why SSM is so immoral.
To help you out a bit: there are exactly 0 countries where SSM has been legalised, where any of the 'doom' slippery slopes you've asserted, have occured.
We've had SSM for over 10 years here and society still thrives, no-one's allowed to fuck, much less marry animals, or their relatives or multiple people.

BooBoo wrote:Anyway, 62.1% voted yes with a turnout of 61.5%. This means that only a minority (38.2%) actually turned out to vote yes.

Incorrect.
That means only 62% of people cared enough to actually vote and of those, a majority was in favor of SSM.
If the majority of the population was seriously opposed this, this would have been reflected in the election results.
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#178  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 24, 2015 12:31 am

BooBoo wrote:
tuco wrote:If anyone wanted to piss on your parade, anyone could take this pic:


Can someone explain to me why homosexual relationships are of "equal" worth with heterosexual ones?

Can you explain why they aren't?
And before you bring up the procreation canard, you do realise many heterosexual couples either don't want and/or can't conceive children?

BooBoo wrote: One makes biological and social sense whereas the other clearly does not.

Booboo appeals to personal ignorance and incredulity. How novel.
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#179  Postby Thommo » May 24, 2015 2:48 am

Much closer than I expected, the yes campaign only 24% out in front. :lol:

Well done Ireland!
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#180  Postby Greyman » May 24, 2015 3:05 am

BooBoo wrote:Anyway, 62.1% voted yes with a turnout of 61.5%. This means that only a minority (38.2%) actually turned out to vote yes.

Yes, and that 37.9% of voters voted no with a turnout of 61.5% means only 23.3% of the population voted "no". That is a smaller minority.

A turnout of 61.5% only means the opinion of 38.5% is unknown; but it doesn't matter because they just didn't care enough about whatever it was to express it.
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