Liberal Democrat Watch

CarlPierce · **#1921** by **CarlPierce** » Dec 01, 2016 5:12 pm

ronmcd wrote:
CarlPierce wrote:
ronmcd wrote:
Beatsong wrote:I really like Tim Farron. Thought he was brilliant on Question Time this week.

Was he on it? I never noticed.

And I watched it.

Mock mock mock is all you ever do. Your more interested in tribal grandstanding and personalities than actually basing your criticism on what the parties actually support.

*literally* laughing out loud.

Im yet to hear anything that explains why you support the snp. Go on try to make the forum interesting by explaining the key snp policies that really appeal to you.

CarlPierce · **#1922** by **CarlPierce** » Dec 02, 2016 12:53 am

Fingers crossed tonight....

OlivierK · **#1923** by **OlivierK** » Dec 02, 2016 1:09 am

It certainly seems to be looking good for the LibDems, with high turnout, and Labour supporters clearly tactically voting for them to get Goldsmith out.

CarlPierce · **#1924** by **CarlPierce** » Dec 02, 2016 1:36 am

OlivierK wrote:It certainly seems to be looking good for the LibDems, with high turnout, and Labour supporters clearly tactically voting for them to get Goldsmith out.

My friends tells me we will shade it by 2k.....amazing. Big thanks to the greens standing aside.

CarlPierce · **#1925** by **CarlPierce** » Dec 02, 2016 2:32 am

OlivierK wrote:It certainly seems to be looking good for the LibDems, with high turnout, and Labour supporters clearly tactically voting for them to get Goldsmith out.

Certainly thanks to Labour supporters who did that. Underlines our daft voting system that people need to vote for their second choice to be heard.

ronmcd · **#1926** by **ronmcd** » Dec 02, 2016 3:00 am

CarlPierce wrote:
ronmcd wrote:
CarlPierce wrote:
ronmcd wrote:
Was he on it? I never noticed.

And I watched it.

Mock mock mock is all you ever do. Your more interested in tribal grandstanding and personalities than actually basing your criticism on what the parties actually support.

*literally* laughing out loud.

Im yet to hear anything that explains why you support the snp. Go on try to make the forum interesting by explaining the key snp policies that really appeal to you.

I've explained it enough times, I certainly don't need to explain it especially for you because you can't be arsed.

ronmcd · **#1927** by **ronmcd** » Dec 02, 2016 3:07 am

CarlPierce wrote:Go on try to make the forum interesting ...

Huh.

CarlPierce · **#1928** by **CarlPierce** » Dec 02, 2016 7:04 am

ronmcd wrote:
CarlPierce wrote:Go on try to make the forum interesting ...

Huh.

Must flush harder......

No need not even you can spoil a glorious night.

ronmcd · **#1929** by **ronmcd** » Dec 02, 2016 8:08 am

CarlPierce wrote:
ronmcd wrote:
CarlPierce wrote:Go on try to make the forum interesting ...

Huh.

Must flush harder......

No need not even you can spoil a glorious night.

Beatsong · **#1930** by **Beatsong** » Dec 02, 2016 8:14 am

This Labour voter is delighted to see the lib dems oust the tories in Richmond. Well done!

minininja · **#1931** by **minininja** » Dec 02, 2016 8:29 am

CarlPierce wrote:
OlivierK wrote:It certainly seems to be looking good for the LibDems, with high turnout, and Labour supporters clearly tactically voting for them to get Goldsmith out.

My friends tells me we will shade it by 2k.....amazing. Big thanks to the greens standing aside.

One step towards a progressive alliance and hopefully getting rid of FPTP.

smudge · **#1932** by **smudge** » Dec 02, 2016 8:34 am

Good news- one less Tory.
Congrats to the LibDems and to all those from other parties that had the sense to put party allegiance aside.

Now why Labour couldn't see the sense in standing aside I can't fathom. it was a lose lose for them. They played their hand badly.

infiniteentropy · **#1933** by **infiniteentropy** » Dec 02, 2016 9:30 am

minininja wrote:
CarlPierce wrote:
OlivierK wrote:It certainly seems to be looking good for the LibDems, with high turnout, and Labour supporters clearly tactically voting for them to get Goldsmith out.

My friends tells me we will shade it by 2k.....amazing. Big thanks to the greens standing aside.

One step towards a progressive alliance and hopefully getting rid of FPTP.

We can only hope.

Sendraks · **#1934** by **Sendraks** » Dec 02, 2016 10:15 am

Beatsong wrote:This Labour voter is delighted to see the lib dems oust the tories in Richmond. Well done!

CarlPierce · **#1935** by **CarlPierce** » Dec 02, 2016 10:42 am

minininja wrote:
CarlPierce wrote:
OlivierK wrote:It certainly seems to be looking good for the LibDems, with high turnout, and Labour supporters clearly tactically voting for them to get Goldsmith out.

My friends tells me we will shade it by 2k.....amazing. Big thanks to the greens standing aside.

One step towards a progressive alliance and hopefully getting rid of FPTP.

For the life of me cant see why we dont work with Labour. Carve up the seats with the agreement to junk fptp.

mrjonno · **#1936** by **mrjonno** » Dec 02, 2016 10:42 am

Well down Lib Dem's ,even if I think public airport infrastructure projects are a good thing. Some issues are simply higher priority than others like fighting racist nationalists

CarlPierce · **#1937** by **CarlPierce** » Dec 02, 2016 10:43 am

Beatsong wrote:This Labour voter is delighted to see the lib dems oust the tories in Richmond. Well done!

Thank-you ! Appreciate this comment a lot.

mrjonno · **#1938** by **mrjonno** » Dec 02, 2016 10:59 am

CarlPierce wrote:
minininja wrote:
CarlPierce wrote:
OlivierK wrote:It certainly seems to be looking good for the LibDems, with high turnout, and Labour supporters clearly tactically voting for them to get Goldsmith out.

My friends tells me we will shade it by 2k.....amazing. Big thanks to the greens standing aside.

One step towards a progressive alliance and hopefully getting rid of FPTP.

For the life of me cant see why we dont work with Labour. Carve up the seats with the agreement to junk fptp.

The problem is the Lib Dem's are a middle class liberal party (even if it doesnt always act that way), parts of Labour are (as are parts of the Tories) but much of the party support is not

Let's face it without FPTP neither Labour or the Tory party would exist

ronmcd · **#1939** by **ronmcd** » Dec 02, 2016 11:12 am

CarlPierce wrote:
minininja wrote:
CarlPierce wrote:
OlivierK wrote:It certainly seems to be looking good for the LibDems, with high turnout, and Labour supporters clearly tactically voting for them to get Goldsmith out.

My friends tells me we will shade it by 2k.....amazing. Big thanks to the greens standing aside.

One step towards a progressive alliance and hopefully getting rid of FPTP.

For the life of me cant see why we dont work with Labour. Carve up the seats with the agreement to junk fptp.

Are labour signed up to electoral reform, let alone PR? As far as I know they're not? So you're suggesting an electoral pact with Labour, in a bid to win seats presumably that neither libdems or labour can currently win with a split vote. Is that the idea?

Two problems I think. Will adding labour and libdem votes together in currently tory constituencies actually lead to beating the tory incumbent? Possibly in some, but the places where libdems and labour split each others vote is I suspect quite small in number.

Second problem, you're suggesting standing both parties in a General Election on a single policy basis, a policy almost guaranteed 90% of current labour MPs don't support. What about all the other policies usually in a manifesto?

I do so hope that was 'interesting' enough for you.

mrjonno · **#1940** by **mrjonno** » Dec 02, 2016 11:28 am

Not sure you need the same policies if one party simply doesn't stand in a seat.I don't really think Labour are going to be losing that many more seats to the Tories anyway , its UKIP they need to worry about. I don't think your average working class Labourite is going to suddenly start voting Tory unfortunately that like UKIP basically because they are a bit thick

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