CarlPierce wrote:We should be using conspiracy theories against him. Spin a tale like this.

“Fighting solves everything. We need more violence from the Trump people. Trump supporters: choke a motherfucker. Choke a bitch. Choke a tranny. Get your fingers around the windpipe.”

Those are the words of Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes.

“If some guy with a slightly punk demeanor comes up to you and says ‘Hey are you Sal? Are you pro-Trump?’ Choke him. Trust your instincts, don’t listen to what he has to say, choke him.”

White supremacist Donald Trump supporters plan to intimidate black voters on Election Day

White supremacist groups have heeded Trump's calls to monitor "certain areas" for voter fraud – and civil rights groups fear they may result in violence and disenfranchisement

Animavore wrote:

White supremacist Donald Trump supporters plan to intimidate black voters on Election Day

White supremacist groups have heeded Trump's calls to monitor "certain areas" for voter fraud – and civil rights groups fear they may result in violence and disenfranchisement

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 94481.html

‘Transgender’ Could Be Defined Out of Existence Under Trump Administration

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth, the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort to roll back recognition and protections of transgender people under federal civil rights law.

A series of decisions by the Obama administration loosened the legal concept of gender in federal programs, including in education and health care, recognizing gender largely as an individual’s choice and not determined by the sex assigned at birth. The policy prompted fights over bathrooms, dormitories, single-sex programs and other arenas where gender was once seen as a simple concept. Conservatives, especially evangelical Christians, were incensed.

Now the Department of Health and Human Services is spearheading an effort to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans gender discrimination in education programs that receive government financial assistance, according to a memo obtained by The New York Times.

The department argued in its memo that key government agencies needed to adopt an explicit and uniform definition of gender as determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with, according to a draft reviewed by The Times. Any dispute about one’s sex would have to be clarified using genetic testing.

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Spinozasgalt wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/us/politics/transgender-trump-administration-sex-definition.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

‘Transgender’ Could Be Defined Out of Existence Under Trump Administration

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth, the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort to roll back recognition and protections of transgender people under federal civil rights law.

A series of decisions by the Obama administration loosened the legal concept of gender in federal programs, including in education and health care, recognizing gender largely as an individual’s choice and not determined by the sex assigned at birth. The policy prompted fights over bathrooms, dormitories, single-sex programs and other arenas where gender was once seen as a simple concept. Conservatives, especially evangelical Christians, were incensed.

Now the Department of Health and Human Services is spearheading an effort to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans gender discrimination in education programs that receive government financial assistance, according to a memo obtained by The New York Times.

The department argued in its memo that key government agencies needed to adopt an explicit and uniform definition of gender as determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with, according to a draft reviewed by The Times. Any dispute about one’s sex would have to be clarified using genetic testing.

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Willie71 wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/us/politics/transgender-trump-administration-sex-definition.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

‘Transgender’ Could Be Defined Out of Existence Under Trump Administration

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth, the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort to roll back recognition and protections of transgender people under federal civil rights law.

A series of decisions by the Obama administration loosened the legal concept of gender in federal programs, including in education and health care, recognizing gender largely as an individual’s choice and not determined by the sex assigned at birth. The policy prompted fights over bathrooms, dormitories, single-sex programs and other arenas where gender was once seen as a simple concept. Conservatives, especially evangelical Christians, were incensed.

Now the Department of Health and Human Services is spearheading an effort to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans gender discrimination in education programs that receive government financial assistance, according to a memo obtained by The New York Times.

The department argued in its memo that key government agencies needed to adopt an explicit and uniform definition of gender as determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with, according to a draft reviewed by The Times. Any dispute about one’s sex would have to be clarified using genetic testing.

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Sex and gender are two different things. Why is this so hard for those morons?

Thomas Eshuis wrote:

Willie71 wrote:
Sex and gender are two different things. Why is this so hard for those morons?

Because if it's not something they themselves experience (being transgender) or understand, it can't possibly exist.

Cito di Pense wrote:

Thomas Eshuis wrote:

Willie71 wrote:
Sex and gender are two different things. Why is this so hard for those morons?

Because if it's not something they themselves experience (being transgender) or understand, it can't possibly exist.

If sex and gender are quite so distinct, how do one's primary and secondary sex attributes have anything to do with what gender identity one adopts? There's a given answer to this, and so I'm just commenting on the pointlessness of reiterating that sex and gender are distinct, without some careful elaboration. You might as well say something glib about the public and private aspects of identity. Do so with all enthusiasm, but don't trivialize it with soundbites. I can understand the discomfort of being in a state of gender ambiguity, publicly speaking; it seems one's private identity develops, and then commits, but there are even those who relish ambiguity.

How Tom Steyer Built the Biggest Political Machine You’ve Never Heard Of
Having spent $120 million and signed up 6 million people, Tom Steyer has assembled, in a year, an organization with more reach than the NRA.

Miami GOP Chairman just caught leading Proud Boys in attack on Democratic campaign office

Yesterday, Miami GOP Chairman Nelson Diaz told me he never even heard of the Proud Boys, but the hate group’s own video proves otherwise.

aban57 wrote:
But what else can we do ?

Spinozasgalt wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/us/politics/transgender-trump-administration-sex-definition.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

‘Transgender’ Could Be Defined Out of Existence Under Trump Administration

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth, the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort to roll back recognition and protections of transgender people under federal civil rights law.

A series of decisions by the Obama administration loosened the legal concept of gender in federal programs, including in education and health care, recognizing gender largely as an individual’s choice and not determined by the sex assigned at birth. The policy prompted fights over bathrooms, dormitories, single-sex programs and other arenas where gender was once seen as a simple concept. Conservatives, especially evangelical Christians, were incensed.

Now the Department of Health and Human Services is spearheading an effort to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans gender discrimination in education programs that receive government financial assistance, according to a memo obtained by The New York Times.

The department argued in its memo that key government agencies needed to adopt an explicit and uniform definition of gender as determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with, according to a draft reviewed by The Times. Any dispute about one’s sex would have to be clarified using genetic testing.

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zulumoose wrote:Reminds me of a T-shirt I saw on Durban beachfront a long time ago in support of Saddam Hussein. Basically it was making him out to be a hero because so many other (Western) countries were against him.

I swear you could start a political movement on the need to eat raisins embedded in bananas and there would be some deluded fools emerging from the woodwork to support you as their hero.