THWOTH wrote:

Seabass wrote:Not a chance. The left's hatred of Israel will give them an excuse not to vote for Biden, and Trump will win. The far left in this country are are too fucking idealistic to accept that fascists are worse than centrists/liberals.

I'm a lefty who has no love for the far-right Israeli government or that nation's historical illegal occupation and control of Palestinian lands seized in 1967, but the state isn't the people and it certainly doesn't represent all Jewish people globally, and I can see that a middle of the road conservative like Biden is a better option than the alternative. Despite the right's regular, playing-the-victim tirades against the "woke" or "radical far left extremists" etc the left have no power in the US and no-one in mainstream politics represents the views of the left - so US lefties always have to either compromise at the ballot box or just stay home. Isn't keeping Trump out motivation enough to vote Biden for any reasonably minded American atm, lefty or otherwise?

THWOTH wrote:There's so many reasons lefties might be, shall we say, reluctant to vote for Biden, but in a two horse race is getting Trump because you can't vote for Biden a win?

Seabass wrote:

THWOTH wrote:There's so many reasons lefties might be, shall we say, reluctant to vote for Biden, but in a two horse race is getting Trump because you can't vote for Biden a win?

Do you think the kind of people who cheer for Hamas killing 1400 Israelis won't happily watch the Great Satan go down in flames?

THWOTH wrote:

Seabass wrote:

THWOTH wrote:There's so many reasons lefties might be, shall we say, reluctant to vote for Biden, but in a two horse race is getting Trump because you can't vote for Biden a win?

Do you think the kind of people who cheer for Hamas killing 1400 Israelis won't happily watch the Great Satan go down in flames?

I don't see Biden worrying much about loosing votes he probably couldn't count on anyway.

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From endorsing hard labor prison sentences for abortion providers to supporting the criminalization of gay sex, his staunchly conservative rhetoric is rooted in an era of “biblical morality,” that he says was washed away with the counterculture in the 1960s.

“One of the primary purposes of the law in civil government is to restrain evil,” Johnson said on one radio show in 2010. “We have to acknowledge collectively that man is inherently evil and needs to be restrained.”

His vision has been well received as a congressman in his deeply conservative district in western Louisiana. But his surprising rise to the speakership has brought his particularly subtle brand of fire-and-brimstone to second in line to the presidency — delivering him a national platform from which to shape and influence laws.