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Re: Yulin dog meat festival (tortuous Chinese)

#41  Postby felltoearth » Jan 03, 2018 7:03 pm

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I didn't know people ate bears.
You guys are so weird. You speak some French, eat bears, what else ?


If you think they're strange go talk to some Cajuns. If you can understand them, that is.

Cajuns are former neighbours to Piper so it makes sense.
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Re: Yulin dog meat festival (tortuous Chinese)

#42  Postby felltoearth » Jan 03, 2018 7:04 pm

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felltoearth wrote:They guard the Bifröst Bridge.

After Googling what that is, you might be right. There are people who believe that Norse reached Maine (and beyond). There's no direct evidence that I'm aware of. There are 2 things that I've heard about that interest me. The Maine Penny, found at a coastal site rich with Native American artifacts. It's certainly interesting, but I think it's just as likely to have been acquired from the Norse further north. Of course I'm not an archaeologist and my opinion is worth garbage. I think it was found at the same site that I read about a trilobite from a formation relatively far north being found, suggesting that Native Americans collected fossils. If Native Americans from the north traded the exotic trilobite, they also could have brought the coin from the north. The Maine population traded with Dorset people, I don't think that's disputed.
The other thing I know about is Maine Coon Cats, :kitten: , who's origin is unknown, and supposedly share characteristics with Norway Forest Cats. :eager:
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The generally accepted hypothesis among breeders is that the Maine Coon is descended from the pairings of local short-haired domestic cats and long-haired breeds brought overseas by English seafarers (possibly by Captain Charles Coon) or 11th-century Norsemen.[10][11] The connection to the Norsemen is seen in the strong resemblance of the Maine Coon to the Norwegian Forest Cat, another breed that is said to be a descendant of cats that traveled with the Norsemen.[12][13]

I don't have a "preference" about if the Norse explored New England or not, but it's fairly interesting, and I'd like to know what really happened.

That is fascinating. Thanks Piper
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Re: Yulin dog meat festival (tortuous Chinese)

#43  Postby The_Metatron » Jan 03, 2018 7:14 pm

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The_Piper wrote:I'm going to guess because they're usually too lean. Bears are fat enough, but they're omnivores. Lots of people Maine-iacs eat those. Chickens are yummy carnivores.

I didn't know people ate bears.
You guys are so weird. You speak some French, eat bears, what else ?

Black bear.

The meat is really stringy, and tastes sort of... bad. I’ve hunted for them, but never saw one.

Dangerous to humans, black bears. They aren’t afraid of us or our houses, which results in many encounters. A black bear isn’t as physically dangerous as a polar bear, for example, but they’re god damned big and pointy enough that from our soft pink defenseless perspective, they may as well be as dangerous.


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About black bears, there's no question that they're dangerous to people. The average black bear can probably lift more weight than Mr. Universe, while also being able to crumple up an attacking Bruce Lee and toss him onto the fire like a newspaper. :teef:
But they are afraid of people, there's also no question. They roughly match brown bears for fatal attacks, but they vastly outnumber them, and also live closer to where lots of people do, so have far more chances to attack. So as far as being in bear territory, I'd rather be in black bear territory.

I've never seen a bear in the woods while I was on foot, even though I routinely find tracks and/or scat wherever I look for it, even on my property.
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I spend a lot of time outdoors, so I think the most plausible explanation for my lack of sightings, is that they go out of their way to not be seen. I see them when I'm driving sometimes, because they have less time to run and hide.
They allow bear baiting here, and I find the barrels in the surrounding woods pretty frequently. That's not cool, imo, they shouldn't do that near human habitation.

I think where they are most risky is where people and bear habitat meet. Not especially in a town like mine where the population is about 5 people per square mile, but a city like Caribou, where there are 8000 people living right next to huge, bear-laden forests. The bears there have more of a chance of becoming used to humans, being fed by humans, etc., which can cause them to lose their fear of humans and associate us with food. Feeding a wild bear is not a good thing to do. The Ghost of Mr. Woodchuckles forbids it. :teef:

I am certain those bears sure as hell see you when you take those strolls in the woods. That's probably why you don't see them.
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Re: Yulin dog meat festival (tortuous Chinese)

#44  Postby The_Piper » Jan 03, 2018 10:16 pm

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The_Metatron wrote:
aban57 wrote:
I didn't know people ate bears.
You guys are so weird. You speak some French, eat bears, what else ?

Black bear.

The meat is really stringy, and tastes sort of... bad. I’ve hunted for them, but never saw one.

Dangerous to humans, black bears. They aren’t afraid of us or our houses, which results in many encounters. A black bear isn’t as physically dangerous as a polar bear, for example, but they’re god damned big and pointy enough that from our soft pink defenseless perspective, they may as well be as dangerous.


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About black bears, there's no question that they're dangerous to people. The average black bear can probably lift more weight than Mr. Universe, while also being able to crumple up an attacking Bruce Lee and toss him onto the fire like a newspaper. :teef:
But they are afraid of people, there's also no question. They roughly match brown bears for fatal attacks, but they vastly outnumber them, and also live closer to where lots of people do, so have far more chances to attack. So as far as being in bear territory, I'd rather be in black bear territory.

I've never seen a bear in the woods while I was on foot, even though I routinely find tracks and/or scat wherever I look for it, even on my property.
[Reveal] Spoiler:
I spend a lot of time outdoors, so I think the most plausible explanation for my lack of sightings, is that they go out of their way to not be seen. I see them when I'm driving sometimes, because they have less time to run and hide.
They allow bear baiting here, and I find the barrels in the surrounding woods pretty frequently. That's not cool, imo, they shouldn't do that near human habitation.

I think where they are most risky is where people and bear habitat meet. Not especially in a town like mine where the population is about 5 people per square mile, but a city like Caribou, where there are 8000 people living right next to huge, bear-laden forests. The bears there have more of a chance of becoming used to humans, being fed by humans, etc., which can cause them to lose their fear of humans and associate us with food. Feeding a wild bear is not a good thing to do. The Ghost of Mr. Woodchuckles forbids it. :teef:

I am certain those bears sure as hell see you when you take those strolls in the woods. That's probably why you don't see them.
Almost definitely. That I never see them after this much mileage and time in the woods suggests to me that the local bears are afraid of people.
I like snowshoeing in winter and one of the reasons is that I don't have to worry about bears, generally. Though last year we had multiple thaws which could cause a bear to stir from it's hibernation prematurely, and I'd be one of the only things for it to eat. I worry about them in the spring, when game might be the most often on their menu, due to the relative scarcity of plant matter and insects. I guess they like to eat beavers, which I don't mind much. Keep the 2 scariest things in the woods against each other and leave me alone. :lol:
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Re: Yulin dog meat festival (tortuous Chinese)

#45  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 04, 2018 12:23 am

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Keep It Real wrote:Are you hypothesising sadism as the cause of this fal?


Nope.


You know I'm not so sure ATM - seems fairly plausible to me right now - and it had occurred to me before...
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#46  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jan 04, 2018 12:29 am

Yeah, those dirty sadistic Chinese. I also like how in the other site you managed to make it about your idiotic "player hating" thing :lol:
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#47  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 04, 2018 12:43 am

So what's your hypothesis for this SAM?
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#48  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 04, 2018 12:53 am

SafeAsMilk wrote: I also like how in the other site you managed to make it about your idiotic "player hating" thing :lol:


As if I invented the term.
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#49  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 04, 2018 1:04 am

Well? I can't hear you....
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#50  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 04, 2018 1:06 am

Fuck me; here we go again. I really have had it with you now SAM TBH.

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#51  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jan 04, 2018 1:12 am

Keep It Real wrote:Well? I can't hear you....

Oh sorry, I forgot I was supposed to sit around and wait with bated breath for your reply...

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SafeAsMilk wrote: I also like how in the other site you managed to make it about your idiotic "player hating" thing :lol:


As if I invented the term.

You certainly invented your torturous use of it.

Keep It Real wrote:So what's your hypothesis for this SAM?

Hypothesis for what?
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#52  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jan 04, 2018 1:15 am

Keep It Real wrote:Fuck me; here we go again. I really have had it with you now SAM TBH.

I don't really give a shit. I'll reply when I feel like it.

And I'm not really sure why you keep posting that Idiocracy video, trying to give us some insight into your life?
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#53  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 04, 2018 1:17 am

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Keep It Real wrote:So what's your hypothesis for this SAM?

Hypothesis for what?


For their boiling/skinning/blowtorching dogs alive of course. I mean - what did you think this thread is about?
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#54  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jan 04, 2018 1:24 am

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Keep It Real wrote:So what's your hypothesis for this SAM?

Hypothesis for what?


For their boiling/skinning/blowtorching dogs alive of course. I mean -

Because they think doing it that way is better...? I mean, haven't you investigated this at all? Or did you just stop after you decided that the Chinese are evil torture worshippers and enjoy making you angry because they know you love dogs so much?


what did you think this thread is about?

You losing your mind because somehow dogs are sacred and shouldn't be treated like other animals that you eat?
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#55  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 04, 2018 1:52 am

Like I said - done with you SAM. You're so full of shit.
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#56  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jan 04, 2018 1:57 am

Keep It Real wrote:Like I said - done with you SAM.

Sure you are.
You're so full of shit right that I have no reply.

FIFY.

http://shanghaiist.com/2016/06/20/toget ... _china.php

B-b-b-but the Chinese just loooooove torturing animals!
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#57  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 04, 2018 2:09 am

Their government allows it/enables it (same thing).
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#58  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 04, 2018 2:12 am

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Keep It Real wrote:Like I said - done with you SAM.

Sure you are.


Yeah; fair point. I seem to be interacting with you still.
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#59  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jan 04, 2018 2:18 am

Keep It Real wrote:Their government allows it/enables it (same thing).

So the government loves torturing animals. Now I've heard it all. I guess your government loves torturing animals too since it lets/enables you to boil lobsters alive.
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#60  Postby Keep It Real » Jan 04, 2018 2:26 am

Been there done that got the T. Read. Any chef/restaurant owner who knows about the lobster/dog issue ain't doing it no more.
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