Kinect Causes Trouble for Viewers During Xbox One Reveal

Viewers watching the Xbox One reveal on their Xbox 360s were unpleasantly surprised when their active Kinects began responding to commands from the presentation.
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Several viewers sporting 360s with connected Kinects discovered the device was responding to commands being spoken by Microsoft representatives during the live stream. Responses to the commands varied from the video being paused to the console itself being shut down.
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mraltair wrote:I don't want to be on the phone while watching a film/TV/playing a game.

From my understanding of RAM GDDR5 is good for gaming, hence the G. So I expect the PS4 to blow Microsoft away with graphics, but I also guess devs will make a game that works on the Xbox and then tweak it for the PS4 to keep a standard feel to the game leaving similar graphics for each release. Unless developers can afford to run two teams making the game that reaches the limit of both consoles individually.

mraltair wrote:

tuco wrote:Well yes, we all think something, we even present our reasons. We do not know HW specs, we've seen a couple of presentations without real substance, the consoles were not tested head to head and do not even sell yet and one of the giants lost battle already? Maybe battle, marketing battle, but not war. Lets get back to this thread in few years.

Actually, we know quite a lot about the Xbox and what sort of capability it will have. PS4 is still mostly unknown, we have numbers and a brief idea of process but from what we know, looking at the hardware, the Xbox has lost out. They have aimed towards a multimedia centre at the expense of gaming and we aren't even sure the TV capability will be that good. From what I've seen there is no DVR control, so you would have to switch to your set-top box to record or play anything you recorded.

Here's a good summary of the Xbox One specs.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... s-xbox-one

mraltair wrote:

From my understanding of RAM GDDR5 is good for gaming, hence the G. So I expect the PS4 to blow Microsoft away with graphics, but I also guess devs will make a game that works on the Xbox and then tweak it for the PS4 to keep a standard feel to the game leaving similar graphics for each release. Unless developers can afford to run two teams making the game that reaches the limit of both consoles individually.

Jumbo wrote:

From my understanding of RAM GDDR5 is good for gaming, hence the G. So I expect the PS4 to blow Microsoft away with graphics, but I also guess devs will make a game that works on the Xbox and then tweak it for the PS4 to keep a standard feel to the game leaving similar graphics for each release. Unless developers can afford to run two teams making the game that reaches the limit of both consoles individually.

The g stands for graphics. It doesn't mean the PS4 will blow any other machine away though. it depends upon how the software is written. if the game is CPU limited via a bottleneck in the code then the memory being great for graphics becomes irrelevant.

Animavore wrote:

mraltair wrote:I don't want to be on the phone while watching a film/TV/playing a game.

And let's not forget the elephant in the room here. When they say phone I'm presuming they mean their piece of crap phone.

They're trying to monoplise plain and simple.

mraltair wrote:

Animavore wrote:

mraltair wrote:I don't want to be on the phone while watching a film/TV/playing a game.

And let's not forget the elephant in the room here. When they say phone I'm presuming they mean their piece of crap phone.

They're trying to monoplise plain and simple.

Skype I believe, yes. I also doubt they will allow any other VOIP product on the Xbox without paying through the nose for the privilege. Skype is the product to use for online calls though so I doubt anyone will care about that.

Microsoft has had a lot of practice in creating monopolies.

Animavore wrote:

mraltair wrote:

Animavore wrote:

mraltair wrote:I don't want to be on the phone while watching a film/TV/playing a game.

And let's not forget the elephant in the room here. When they say phone I'm presuming they mean their piece of crap phone.

They're trying to monoplise plain and simple.

Skype I believe, yes. I also doubt they will allow any other VOIP product on the Xbox without paying through the nose for the privilege. Skype is the product to use for online calls though so I doubt anyone will care about that.

Microsoft has had a lot of practice in creating monopolies.

No, I mean when they say it integrates with your phone (I think you can even control stuff with your phone) they mean phones using Windows, which no one buys.

A greater graphics capability gives developers more to play with. The Xbox One has less than the PS4, meaning if developers want to create graphically intensive games they will make them exclusive to the PS4 leading to the PS4 having the best looking and graphically intensive games. The CPUs are rumoured to be similar so whatever the One can do the PS4 can do just as well with the added benefit of a meatier GPU.

Jumbo wrote:

A greater graphics capability gives developers more to play with. The Xbox One has less than the PS4, meaning if developers want to create graphically intensive games they will make them exclusive to the PS4 leading to the PS4 having the best looking and graphically intensive games. The CPUs are rumoured to be similar so whatever the One can do the PS4 can do just as well with the added benefit of a meatier GPU.

The main difference between DDR and GDDR is bandwidth. For quite a lot of types of games that may not be as relevant as many other factors. My CPU point is that if a game has a bottleneck that is due to some CPU process then the other factors are irrelevant. AI and a variety of other elements are becoming increasingly important and will make up a ever increasing element of a games performance. GDDR isn't going to help that all that much. When you have a CPU or other bottleneck the meatier GPU stands idle and provides no extra benefit. Its not a case of automatically giving developers more to play with.

If developers want to make graphically intensive games they will do so on whatever platform their publisher tells them to. They might have to be more inventive in technique on one platform or another but no publisher will ditch making money on a given platform if there is even a sniff of cash there. When there have been exclusives for one platform or another the reasons are business driven rather than technology driven when you look at platforms of a similar generation.

ExtremeTech reports that Microsoft has filed for a patent that allows Kinect to monitor the number of viewers in the room. It then cross-checks this with the maximum number of viewers permitted by the licence that a user agrees to when purchasing or renting content.

If it is deemed that too many people are present, the user will be prompted to pay an additional fee to upgrade the licence.

Animavore wrote::shock:

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/the-exte ... ge/0116138

ExtremeTech reports that Microsoft has filed for a patent that allows Kinect to monitor the number of viewers in the room. It then cross-checks this with the maximum number of viewers permitted by the licence that a user agrees to when purchasing or renting content.

If it is deemed that too many people are present, the user will be prompted to pay an additional fee to upgrade the licence.

Animavore wrote: